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Article posted Apr 21 2009, 3:45 PM Category: Science/Technology Source: The Telegraph Print

US declares greenhouse gases are threat to public health

America has signalled a fundamental shift in its stance on global warming with a declaration from the Obama administration that greenhouse gases are a threat to public health.
By Tom Leonard in New York

The statement issued by the US Environmental Protection Agency is expected to pave the way for new regulations of cars, power plants, building sites and factories by identifying carbon dioxide and five other gases as pollutants.

Environmental groups applauded it as a landmark decision that would allow Barack Obama to meet his call for a low carbon economy but industry groups warned that the so-called "endangerment finding" could cripple the struggling US economy.

America is the world's biggest producer of greenhouse gases but, under the Bush administration, Washington consistently downplayed the threat from global warming and stalled the EPA finding.

The EPA decision, which is subject to a 60-day public review, does not automatically trigger new carbon rules but will allow the government to push ahead with regulating greenhouse gases under federal clear air laws.

The EPA said rising levels of greenhouse gases "are the unambiguous result of human emissions, and are very likely the cause of the observed increase in average temperatures and other climatic changes".

It described the science pointing to man-made pollution as a cause of global warming as "compelling and overwhelming". The EPA also said that exhaust emissions from motor vehicles contribute to climate change.

The agency's action was prompted by a Supreme Court decision in 2007 in which the court said the government could restrict heat-trapping gases under the Clean Air Act if the EPA found them to be a danger to public health and welfare.

The White House has said would prefer for Congress to pass a bill that caps carbon emissions and requires companies to acquire permits to release carbon into the atmosphere.

However, the EPA finding would allow possible tougher regulatory action if Congress fails to act.

Environmentalists said the finding set the way for a new era of US policy on climate change.

Joe Mendelson, global warming policy director at the National Wildlife Federation, described the decision as "historic and a game-changer for climate policy that will have political and policy repercussions domestically and abroad".

"This is the single largest step the federal government has taken to fight climate change," he said.

Frank O'Donnell, president of Clean Air Watch, an environment group, said it was a "landmark moment in environmental history".

He added: "The Obama administration now has the legal equivalent of a .44 Magnum. The bullets aren't loaded yet, but they could be."

David Bookbinder, chief climate lawyer of the Sierra Club, said: "Where the Bush administration lagged, the Obama administration is now leading. There is no longer a question of if or even when the US will act on global warming. We are doing so now."

But business groups, including the US Chamber of Commerce, have warned that the economy could grind to a halt if the EPA was to begin regulating carbon.

Charles Drevna, president of the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association, said such regulation would have an "enormous impact on every facet of the economy, businesses large and small, as well as on the general population".

He said: "Before moving forward with regulation, the United States must ensure that other major global contributors are similarly committed to reducing their ambient greenhouse gas concentrations."

In a letter to the EPA earlier this week, a group of eight prominent American conservatives and free-market campaigners warned that an endangerment finding "would lead to destructive regulatory schemes that Congress never authorised".

It warned Washington that "the administration will bear responsibility for any increase in consumer energy costs, unemployment, and GDP losses" that result.

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Posted: Apr 24 2009, 7:32 AM

One of the problems I have 174 is that your posts do not pattern to someone who is genuinely confused, they pattern to disinformation being a job.

In terms of 9/11, indeed a range of terrorist acts in america being an inside job, it is something that I can evidence using their evidence rather than my own. I will give a further example of this as you questioned the existence of official witnesses together with other distractions. Friendstacy drew attention to the fact such people are paid for the opinions they express, though I have my own evidence I think one more 'official witness' will help demonstrate the point.

After 9/11 a senior member of a company known as the fbi directed by mueller I mentioned earlier went public that the fbi knew of the plans for terrorist attacks on america. The statement that went out was that nothing was to be done were the orders that came down from the top of the fbi.

I am not aware of any claims that the report made by an employee were false. In such circumstances, many might view there are sufficient grounds (grounds I can add to) to arrest mr mueller and in view of the inaction and that this is hierarchy he heads, grounds for arrest for terrorism and treason extend to any employee of the company.

Posted: Apr 24 2009, 7:58 AM

As a word of caution to those who research this e.g. evidence that the bbc broadcasts of the witness from the fbi stating that an fbi agent had the terrorist plan, interpreting these things at face value is riddled with danger as the media can be viewed as a riddle itself. The bbc put their interview of the alleged fbi witness out to the public, the bbc is king of the crop of disinformers. There is no lack of witnesses or evidence to that effect either, this includes their own admissions also. Disinformation tactics apply internally as well externally, what someone says can depend on a number of factors including what information they are given, information is a key control of intelligent life on planet earth. I say that as the whistleblower leak was leaking matched to the official cover story that was released. In britain the witness protection program is run by interpol (soca) which is a private agency, this is explicit by foundation, the conflict of interest 100%, the lie self evident.

If the public know that the fbi knew about the attacks but cannot process that information logically, they are then in a state where they have accepted the fbi knew but that is alright. Conversely some researchers will have evidenced some of their terrorist activiites on the day of 9/11, before and since.

Fear is a key control, if a member of public starts to think the fbi attacked america, they start to think of the implications as to who else was involved and the whole thought trail can become unthinkable. Having a population that doesn't really think and doesn't know this is an objective amply demonstrated by the media. This is the controlled insanity referred to in the 1984 plan.

Posted: Apr 24 2009, 8:39 AM

a DID (dissociative identity dissorder) world

<Even the names of the four Ministries by which we are governed exhibit a sort of impudence in their deliberate reversal of the facts. The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in doublethink. For it is only by reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely. In no other way could the ancient cycle be broken. If human equality is to be for ever averted — if the High, as we have called them, are to keep their places permanently — then the prevailing mental condition must be controlled insanity. - 1984>

by official record, orwell (erica arthur blair) worked for the bbc, at the outbreak of war his wife worked for the censorship department.

<Mexico's president given George Orwell's 1984 by the Queen>

controversy sales at work
<When first screened by the BBC there were numerous public complaints and these led to questions being asked in the House of Commons>
<Following remarks by the Duke of Edinburgh that he and the Queen had "thoroughly enjoyed" the broadcast, the live repeat, four days later, attracted the largest television audience since the Coronation.">

Global governance in a book. For the public a nightmare (room 101 ie terrorism). For the demagogue it is the de facto terrorist training manual.

Posted: Apr 24 2009, 2:22 PM

That 1984 is the training manual for dictatorship is easy to evidence, it is not so easy to realise, one reason being that the publishing of the book is an exercise in doublethink of itself. Fear is deliberately attached to the realisation so many remain in denial of truth.

Whilst people are looking for secrets, out in plain view, mrs windsor has passed the instructions and method of the crown to their mexican president.

The same principle applies to 9/11, the con was a secret hidden in plain view. Easy to evidence but a mind trick renders the realisation more difficult. It was a global psychological operation, many of those involved given to people subliminally packaged with fear so people are mind fractured from reality, the truth unthinkable.

Posted: Apr 24 2009, 6:52 PM

The windsors ceremonially handing 1984 to their mexican president on April 3rd 2009, behind the scenes much more than these gifts are exchanged. Just as night follows day the empire tries to weave more of its web, something unpleasant was likely to happen in short order.

To change the manner in which people are controlled is often done through self sabotage in the form of terrorism. Today, trumpeted by the rothmedia is a story (and I emphasise story) of disease hitting the mexican population.

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 9:36 AM

142177 174 i think you are lying to deminish the effect of evidence.The first plane was not shown until the next day from my memory.By attacking peoples beliefs in other areas you show that you are not interested in finding the truth but just shutting up people who are!! Your tactic is lame and makes you sound uneducated.What is wrong with your brain when you think the search for truth means you are a nutjob. You cannot deny the statements that have been made to devert the attention away from the truth. Nobody says it involved the whole Gov. It only takes a couple people in the right places to pull off big crimes. Look at the bailout scam.By not questioning the evidence you are lowering yourself to the level of sheep.Don't worry though! Your Gov will take care of you .They do care about you ,don't they?

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 12:17 PM

<Your Gov will take care of you .They do care about you ,don't they?>

The government are busy killing people, to have a ruling class means having a war. Thus the recent surge in economic terrrorism is viewed as a victory against people.

<My Lord Mayor, Your Excellencies, Aldermen, Mr Recorder, Sheriffs, Ladies and Gentlemen, the world we work in has changed radically in the last year. First by the economic crisis. Then by a new administration in the world’s only superpower. Alone, either would change diplomacy. Together they create a massive opportunity. - David Miliband>

some history (ignoring the true history behind it) included:

<In the 1940s Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman ended two decades of isolationism and set the country firmly on a path of multilateralism. Transformational presidencies such as these redefine America's relationship with the world by bringing new values and vision at a time of crisis.>

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 12:32 PM

The conflict to divide and rule requires conflict to maintain though is a conflict of itself. One of the military strategests (David Kilcullen) involved in plotting the surge policy in iraq defined the main conflict driver as globalization and anti-globalisation and the US conventional military dominance.

For such people, insurgents have a special meaning and with one of the controls being control of the environment:

<…today's insurgencies differ significantly from those of the 1960s. Insurgents may not be seeking to overthrow the state, may have no coherent strategy or may pursue a faith-based approach difficult to counter with traditional methods. There may be numerous competing insurgencies in one theatre, meaning that the counter-insurgent must control the overall environment rather than defeat a specific enemy. The actions of individuals and the propaganda effect of a subjective 'single narrative' may far outweigh practical progress, rendering counter-insurgency even more non-linear and unpredictable.>

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 12:55 PM

One of the most overt statements of the divide was from junior bush - "you are either with us or with the terrorists". An open statement that you are either with the US government or they are against you. As the methods of the company known as the US are terrorist in nature this is doublethink.

An extract of another template produced by one of the elite, catch 22 - Joseph heller:

<'What have you and Colonel Cathcart got to do with my country? You're not the same''
'How can you separate us?' Colonel Korn inquired with ironical tranquillity.
'That's right,' Colonel Cathcart cried empathically, 'You're either for us or against your country. It's as simple as that.'
'Oh, no, Colonel, I don't buy that.'
Colonel Korn was unruffled. 'Neither do I, frankly, but everyone else will. So there you are.'
'You're a disgrace to your uniform!' Colonel Cathcart declared with blustering wrath, whirling to confront Yossarian for the first time. 'I'd like to know how you ever got to be a captain anyway.'
'You promoted him,' Colonel Korn reminded sweetly, stifling a snicker. 'Don't you remember?'
'Let's settle with him. I know what I would like to do with him. I'd like to take him outside and shoot him. That'st what I'd like to do with him. That's what General Dreedle would do with him.'
'But General Dreedle isn't with us any more,' said Colonel Korn, 'so we can't take him outside and shoot him.'>

(the 2nd part of the extract to help comparison with the framing for the crown ie AIW)

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 1:07 PM

142177 Dave I agree completely. By not invading pakistan and just doing casual weapons tests or sorties as they call them, they are just playing another hand.Why are they allowing the Taliban to strengthen up in Pak. the CIA are dropping bombs there with unmanned drones. I thought they were for intelligence not fighting. You will see those drones over the US within a few years.They'll probably use the excuse that they can't patrol the borders without them.

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 3:56 PM

174130 Ummm i didn't lie and i didn't attack anybody's beliefs

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 3:57 PM

174130 maybe the video i saw was a fake im looking for it again

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 3:58 PM

174130 also, don't tell me about lying. I've seen plenty of conspiracy videos where facts are strectched and distorted.

Posted: Apr 25 2009, 4:03 PM

174130 also, it would have to involved more than a couple people. Bush and Cheney couldn't do it themselves definetly if anybody believes that, YES they are a nutjob. I actually have questioned 9/11 alot myself but saying ,a) i am lowering myself to a level of sheep b)i am lame c) i am uneducated d) what is wrong with my brain,. isn't probably the nicest things to say and NO i dont need the government to take care of me and NO the government doesnt care about me

Posted: Apr 27 2009, 8:43 AM

Mexico repays the crown, the mexicans given a debt of 200 million plus interest to fund the government's fear adverts.

utter lies as usual from tavistock's daily mail
<The World Bank has loaned Mexico $200million to help contain the virus but there have already been confirmed cases in the U.S., Canada and now Spain.>

Any comments mrs windsor?

pic 1 sell the threat with medics
pic 2 sell the threat with the military
pic 3 sell the threat with religion
pic 4 sell the threat with the common touch
pic 5 the police are afraid
pic 6 travellers are afraid
pic 7 sell it with football
pic 8 sell disablement through prayer
pic 9 sell it with sex
pic 10 sell it with a taxi driver and passenger

I did lots of different jobs after school, I spent a bit of time in an operating theatre, they told me the masks only last a few seconds.

All this because the state is desperate to frighten people with its own fears. And what happens when that traveller wearing a mask walks up to the passport desk?

Although the british official academic advisor has filed a patent on their stuff natural remedy here:

Posted: Apr 27 2009, 12:32 PM

174130 In a 2002 interview with Al Jazeera journalist Yosri Fouda, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed admitted his involvement, along with Ramzi Binalshibh, in the "Holy Tuesday operation".The 9/11 Commission Report determined that the animosity towards the United States felt by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the "principal architect" of the 9/11 attacks, stemmed "not from his experiences there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel"Mohamed Atta shared this same motivation. Ralph Bodenstein, a former classmate of Atta described him as "most imbued actually about... U.S. protection of these Israeli politics in the region". Abdulaziz al-Omari, a hijacker aboard Flight 11 with Mohamed Atta, said in his video will, "My work is a message those who heard me and to all those who saw me at the same time it is a message to the infidels that you should leave the Arabian peninsula defeated and stop giving a hand of help to the coward Jews in Palestine."


Posted: Apr 27 2009, 1:11 PM

"Abdulaziz al-Omari, a hijacker aboard Flight 11 with Mohamed Atta, said in his video will, "My work is a message those who heard me and to all those who saw me at the same time it is a message to the infidels that you should leave the Arabian peninsula defeated and stop giving a hand of help to the coward Jews in Palestine."

Which work is he talking about, did he specifically mention 911 or a plane or a twin tower?

Posted: Apr 28 2009, 9:02 AM

I think you will find paul that 174 is posting scraps from the official story to plant doubt in people's minds, uncertainty is valuable to public control. As it happens, the official story serves to evidence some of the nations, organisations and individuals involved.

Journalists are programmed for self censorship, I posted here recently on an issue where I was present and then by chance met an american journalist who was reporting the official story, he had a unique way of confining himself to that. By task he was doing a good job. I would like to have read his write up, I learn from finding the truth and reading what is told to people instead.

As for people performing to task and even 9/11 itself I think this experiment is of some relevance:

Posted: Apr 28 2009, 1:24 PM

174130 I am not trying to confuse anybody at all.

Posted: Apr 28 2009, 1:29 PM

174130 I just find it interesting: If 9/11 is really a conspiracy and not at all like the official story says, who are all these people ? There are certain aspects of 9/11 that would make one question the official interpretation but there is alot of data such as the Pentagon that point it to being what it is. What is your thoughts on what really happened at the Pentagon ?
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