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Article posted Dec 14 2009, 4:07 AM

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Source: Climate Depot

ClimateDepot's Marc Morano Destoys Fake Environmentalist Fearmongerer

Winston: "I don't know how many scientists your holding up, however many you tell me."

Obrien: "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five thousand. Sometimes they are twenty-eight hundred. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane."

Climate Depot's TV Debate in Copenhagen: UK Warming Prof. falsely claims '5000 leading climate scientists' in UN IPCC -- Morano Counters: 'You need to apologize and retract that immediately'

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Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:18 AM

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continuous threats from the powerclub guardians :

<Britain faces a 'perfect storm' of water shortage and lack of food, says the government's chief scientist, and climate change and crop and animal diseases will add to future woes. Science is now striving to find solutions>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/dec/13/britain-faces-food-shortage

They can do these things, the PR matchine (controlled media) has been throwing these threats at people for some time.

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:27 AM

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Thoughtcrime supercentres have been built throughout britain, the rollout of the 1984 plan based on total insanity for everyone. Some would wonder why and this is openly stated by the emmanuel goldstein extract in 1984 (in my view a useful write up to circulate - starts page 191):

<But the principle, underlying cause was that, as early as the beginning of the twentieth century, human equality had become technically possible. It was still true that men were not equal in their native talents and that functions had to be specialised in ways that favoured some individuals against others; but there was no longer any real need for class distinctions or for large differences of wealth. In earlier ages, class distinctions had not only been inevitable but desirable.
Inequality was the price of civilisation. With the development of machine production, the case was altered. Even if it was still necessary for human beings to do different kinds of work, it was no longer necessary for them to live at different economic levels.
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The idea of an earthly paradise in which men should live together in a state of brotherhood, without laws, and without brute labour had haunted the imagination for thousands of years. - 1984 (p212)>

the dicatators nightmare, real peace

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:35 AM

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the dictators solution

<But by the fourth decade of the twentieth century all the main currents of political thought were authoritarian. The earthly paradise had been discredited at exactly the moment when it was realisable. Every new political theory, by whatever name it called itself, led back to hierarchy and regimentation. And in the general hardening of outlook that set in round about 1930, practices which had been long abandoned, in some cases for hundreds of years - imprisonment without trial, the use of war prisoners as slaves, public executions, torture to extract confessions, the use of hostages and the deportation of whole populations... - 1984 (p213)>

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:42 AM

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genocide

Although the show by the british lord on climate change doesn't present as an independant man speaking his mind, he did in one of his talks that I heard mention the genocide plans and I think far safer if everyone knows about how totally insane things get if people act for other people rather than use their own minds and experience.

The genocide is included in 1984:

<Below that come the dumb massess whom we habitually refer to as 'the proles', numbering perhaps eighty - five per cent of the population. In terms of our earlier classification, the proles are the Low: for the slave populations of equatorial lands, who pass constantly from one conqueror to conqueror, are not a permanent or necessary part the structure. 1984 - (p 217)

not permanent or necessary

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:48 AM

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how unneccessary

<But in matters of vital importance - meaning, in effect, war and police espionage - the empirical approach is still encouraged, or at least tolerated. The two aims of the Party are to conquer the whole surface of the earth and to extinguish once and for all the possibility of independant thought. There are therefore two great problems which the Party is concerned to solve. One is how to discover, against his will, what another human being is thinking, and the other is how to kill several hundred million people in a few seconds without giving warning beforehand. In so far as scientific research still continues, this is the subject matter. The scientist of today is either a mixture of psychologist and inquisitor, studying with extraordinary minuteness the meaning of facial expressions, gestures and tones of voice, and testing the truth-producing effects of drugs, shock therapy, hypnosis and physical torture; or he is chemist, physicist or biologist concerned only with such branches of his special subject as are relevant to the taking of life. - 1984 (p201)>

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 6:51 AM

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<All the beliefs, habits, tastes, emotions, mental attitudes that characterise our time are really designed to prevent the true nature of the present-day society from being perceived. - 1984 (p218/9)>

is this a world you want?

the 1984 copy i have has a last numbered page number of 325, starting with page 3. i tend to suspect it was designed at 322 pages, 322 the occult signature for master of them.

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 7:31 AM

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crux of the issue

<But it was also clear that an all-round increase in wealth threatened the destruction — indeed, in some sense was the destruction — of a hierarchical society. In a world in which everyone worked short hours, had enough to eat, lived in a house with a bathroom and a refrigerator, and possessed a motor-car or even an aeroplane, the most obvious and perhaps the most important form of inequality would already have disappeared. If it once became general, wealth would confer no distinction. It was possible, no doubt, to imagine a society in which wealth, in the sense of personal possessions and luxuries, should be evenly distributed, while power remained in the hands of a small privileged caste. But in practice such a society could not long remain stable. For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realize that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance. To return to the agricultural past, as some thinkers about the beginning of the twentieth century dreamed of doing, was not a practicable solution. It conflicted with the tendency towards mechanization which had become quasi-instinctive throughout almost the whole world, and moreover, any country which remained industrially backward was helpless in a military sense and was bound to be dominated, directly or indirectly, by its more advanced rivals. Nor was it a satisfactory solution to keep the masses in poverty by restricting the output of goods. This happened to a great extent during the final phase of capitalism, roughly between 1920 and 1940. The economy of many countries was allowed to stagnate, land went out of cultivation, capital equipment was not added to, great blocks of the population were prevented from working and kept half alive by State charity. But this, too, entailed military weakness, and since the privations it inflicted were obviously unnecessary, it made opposition inevitable. The problem was how to keep the wheels of industry turning without increasing the real wealth of the world. Goods must be produced, but they must not be distributed. And in practice the only way of achieving this was by continuous warfare.

The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of
the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed. A Floating Fortress, for example, has locked up in it the labour that would build several hundred cargo-ships. Ultimately it is scrapped as obsolete, never having brought any material benefit to anybody, and with further enormous labours another Floating Fortress is built. In principle the war effort is always so planned as to eat up any surplus that might exist after meeting the bare needs of the population. In practice the needs of the populatiion are always underestimated, with the result that there is a chronic shortage of half the necessities of life; but this is looked on as an advantage. It is deliberate policy to keep even the favoured groups somewhere near the brink of hardship, because a general state of scarcity increases the importance of small privileges and thus magnifies the distinction between one group and another. By the standards of the early twentieth century, even a member of the Inner Party lives an austere, laborious kind of life. - 1984>

Dave

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 7:49 AM

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1984, self brainwashing, total insecurity for everyone, total imprisonment, total insanity and all this while people thought it was safe to leave money in the bank.

"Obedience is the psychological mechanism that links individual action to political purpose." - stanley milgram

The Truth Brigade

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 10:18 AM

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7541

Wouldn't it be a total victory for the plutocrats if they were able to convince you that global warming was a sham?

Only the truly gullible/ignorant would believe that global warming was not real.

Are you really going to bet away your future based on a cache of "hijacked" data that could be part of a false flag effort?

Anonymous

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 11:30 AM

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70178

"only a truly gullible/ignorant would believe that global warming was not real. i agree there."

much like the authors of this website (when it comes to climate change)
they are a tool of the "fox news" crowd and the GOP when it comes to climate change

many of the things Marc Moran are simply not true, and only 1 thing that the man with the PHD said was technically not true.

"...contributed to the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report over the previous 6 years. These people included more than 2500 scientific expert reviewers, more than 800 contributing authors, and more than 450 lead authors."

(ps, if you include their assistants, who are also scientists, the number is well over 5000)

but look how IL has presented the story... "destroyed"

really? there was a single thing said that was questionable and the MORAN guy started repeating it over and over again as though it actually meant something

won't the MORAN guy apologize for the numerous lies and complete irrelevancies he spewed?

won't IL apologize for being CRIMINALLY STUPID over the matter of climate change?

Chris

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 4:58 PM

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To Ministry of Truth Brigade:

"Wouldn't it be a total victory for the plutocrats if they were able to convince you that global warming was a sham?"

Yes nothing could be better for them then their made up lie pushed from the top being shown to be a complete and total fraud, hence them coming out and fearmongering like hell saying billions will die if we don't submit to their carbon dictatorship. (never mind their dictatorship will kill billions)

"Only the truly gullible/ignorant would believe that global warming was not real."

Yeah only the sheep who don't believe because "scientists" say so, those gullible ignorant people right? The ones who are informed and can see through lies like your own?

"Are you really going to bet away your future based on a cache of "hijacked" data that could be part of a false flag effort?"

Only a COINTELPRO agent could come up with such blatant disinformation, you expose yourself thoroughly with the propaganda you spew.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for selling out your people to the murderous NWO, go read what Hitler did to his SA officers when he took power, once you've run your usefulness they will discard you like a used rag, go read what is happening to Hal Turner because that will be your fate soon buddy.

Chris

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 5:10 PM

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Yes, I apologize O'Brien for my thought crimes, "I don't know how many scientists your holding up, however many you tell me."

"'Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five thousand. Sometimes they are twenty-eight hundred. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.' "

"Yes O'Brien I want to believe, America was always at war with the climate, Ice ages have never happened, there was no medieval warming period, the planet has never been warmer, ignorance is strength, war is peace, freedom is slavery!"

"Better"

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

Anonymous

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 7:20 PM

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69162

HA! Thats a category 6 hurricane wind you pathetic, sceptic, bumbuddies are pissing into, all the while claiming "Im not getting wet!"

Chris

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 7:26 PM

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Christ almightly you need to read this:
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=28157

That's the worst use of language I've ever seen.

Anonymous

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 10:19 PM

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70178

chris, you barely speak normal english most of the time; but your doublespeak is excellent. and yet again you have claimed that global warming is not occurring when it is.

global warming is occurring this very second.

the only scam is trading carbon credits.

a bigger scam than that is the one you are trying to pull by claiming that global warming itself is a scam.

Chris

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 10:44 PM

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You literally speak double, you just keep repeating the same trivial nonsense practically word for word, it's lunacy. Is this the fifth time you've repeated that exact same post?

Actually come to think of it the last few times it was "climate change," I explained how idiotic that was and now I see you've replaced it with "global warming," wow what a feat of evolution.

If you were really genuine I doubt you would be attacking me so viciously and relentlessly (and pointlessly), regardless I don't give a damn.

Anonymous

Posted: Dec 14 2009, 11:17 PM

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70178

chris, you just did it again, you pathetic liar.

climate change is real.
global warming is real.

you continue to deny both.

and if you didn't give a damn, you would not be replying.

all you do is insult, and you present no facts. and to accuse me of any sort of doublespeak is ridiculous. if you were genuine, you would not be such a liar when it comes to climate change (and global warming).

being picky about my use of the word global warming is a sign of your weakness (and you don't seem to realize that i was directly addressing something you had just said, which was 'global warming')

please prove otherwise that global warming is not occurring. do you not see what you have been doing constantly on this website, chris?

you completely deny that global warming (which is climate change) is occuring.

you state that global warming is a scam.

and you can't seem to get it to your thick scull, and won't even acknowledge the fact that i have repeatedly stated the obvious. let me do it again:

climate change is real.
right now the climate is warming - global warming is real.

carbon trading is a scam.

and on top of all of that, which i have not even mentioned a single time, the true consensus of all scientists, of all educated people, is that human activity is contributing to the rate of change. and that rate of change is very great. so great we are experiencing a very high rate of extinction.

it's really simple common sense science, chris.

just like if the global climate was cooling - human activity is still contributing to the rate of change.

Chris

Posted: Dec 15 2009, 12:12 AM

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Are you schizophrenic?

Anonymous

Posted: Dec 15 2009, 5:04 AM

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70178

real mature, chris. go back to watching fox news.

Chris

Posted: Dec 15 2009, 5:54 AM

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Ok, I'll continue to expose Fox News as I've done for 5+ years, and how about you start your own site exposing exactly how carbon credits are a total scam?

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