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Article posted Aug 01 2009, 4:48 AM Category: Politics/Corruption Source: Common Sense from a Common Man Print

What’s Really in Obama’s Health Care Reform Bill – A Plain English Translation

The HC Monstrosity-All 1,018 Pages

Must see Old 60 Minutes Exposé On 1976 Swine Flu Propaganda, Debilitating Vaccines
Since Congress doesn’t want to read the Health Care Bill and Obama, ACORN, Unions, Lawyers, & Special Interest Groups don’t want you to know whats in this monstrosity, I decided to do it myself. I’ve taken all my tweets on the HC bill and put them into one single place for your enjoyment.  Additionally here is the link to the full bill – Health Care Bill

Enjoy and remember – the President & Congress are YOUR servants, not the other way around.

PG 1018 States give up some of their State Sovereignty.

PG 1003 9-11 National Med Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” U WILL b tracked.

PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will u be tracked?

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!

PG 993 Govt will establish school based health clinics. Ur kids wont have a chance.

PG 950- 980 BIG GOVT core pub health infrastruc. incl workforce capacity, lab systems; health info sys, etc

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Govt? Offices of Surg. Gen. -Public Health Svc, MinorityHealth, Women’s Health

PG 936 Govt will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Perform. Standards” Tell me what 2 eat?

PG 935 21-22 Govt will identify specific goals & obj 4 prevention & wellness activities. Control U

Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- intial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency trng 4 HC professionals.

PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL incl commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft? WTF!

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.

PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. 2 ensure supply of public health prof.

PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment

Pg 865 The Govt will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps

Pg 859 Govt will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.

PG 844-845 OMG! This Home Visitation Prog. includes Govt coming in2 ur house & telling u how 2 parent

Pg 838-840 Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation Prog 4 families w young kids & families expect kids.

PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Govt for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes. No sh*t

PG 829-833 Govt will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. 2 register. Govt takes over private payment sys.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 789-797 Govt will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought 2 mrkt. Bye innovation

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Govt mandates eligibility 4 State Family Planning Svcs. Say abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Svcs – “increasing birth intervals btwn pregnancies.” Govt ABORTIONS any1?

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Svcs include-economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness. WTF?!!

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Svcs – “increasing birth intervals btwn pregnancies.” Govt Abortions any1?

Pg 768 Sec 1713 Govt – Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union paybacks)

Pg 765 Sec 1711 Govt will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)

Pg 757-762 Fed govt will shift burden of payments 2 Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) 2 States. (Taxes)

PG 740-757 Govt sets guidelines 4 subsidizing the uninsured (Thats UR tax dollars peeps)

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. purposes the Secretary-HHS will give Atty General access to ALL data.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Govt certifications will apply 2 medicaid & CHIP (ur kids)

PG 722 Sec 1639 Govt MANDATES Doctors must have face2face w patient 2 certify patient 4 Home Health Svcs.

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Govt reserves rt 2 apply face2face certification 4 patient to ANY other HC service.

PG 732 Sec 1639 Govt MANDATES Doctors must have face2face w patient 2 certify patient 4 Home Health Svcs.

Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med svcs MUST b enrolled in Medicare.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/suppliers admittance into HC Exchng.

Pg 686-700 Increased Funding 2 Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. LMAO!! U mean the Govt w an $18 mil website?

Pg 676-686 Govt will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, incl. teaching hospitals.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Govt will tell U where ur residency will b, thus where u’ll live.

Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections – Looks okay.

Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Govt wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Qual Measures” 4 Physician Svcs & Dialysis Svcs.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Qual Measures” 4 Physician Svcs & Dialysis Svcs.

Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Govt may implement any “Quality measure” of HC Services as they see fit.

Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.

Pg 628 Sec 1443 Govt will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input in2 Selection of “Quality” Measures

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall b designd to profile u including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall b designd 2 assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay 4 the Qual Standards Govt will xsfer $$ from 2 other Govt Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Govt will define what Quality means in HC. Since when does Govt know about quality?

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.

PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps – Can u say unions & ACORN?

PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.

Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both pub & unpub (that means public & ur private info)

Pg 503 lines 21-25 Govt may secure data directly from any depart or agency of the US incl ur data.

Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Govt will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic med records.

PG 502 Sec 1181 Ctr 4 Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs.

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage.

PG 476 19-20 Chapter 35/ title 44, (Privacy of pers records) shall not apply Home Med Svcs. ACORN ACCESS!

Pg 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Pg 464 Lines 17-22 Indep. Patient Ctr Home Med Svcs – Drs dont have 2 b at ur home just some1 directed by Dr.

Pg 460 Sec 1302 The Govt WILL provide medical svcs in ur home. Paging Nurse Pelosi !!

Pg 460 Sec 1302 – Knock Knock – It’s the Govt and I’m here w the Medical Home Program – YOUR home

PG 455 Lines 3-4 Govt exempts itself frm Chapter 35, Title 44 Paperwork Reduct & Citizens Privacy Prot. Act

PG 448 Lines 4-17 Govt will set performance targets 4 ALL Accountable Care Organizations incl. private.

PG 444 Lines 1-6 Gov’s Accountable Care Program will mandate svcs & infrastructure thru reward/penalty sys.

PG 443 Lines 7-24 Govt at taxpayers exp, test out an “Accountable Care Org” program (Gov doesnt have plan).

PG 438 Sec 1236 – The Govt will develop a patient decision making aid program that u & Dr. WILL use.

PG 434 Section 1234 Military Active, Reservists, Families – Once HC bill is passed ur premiums will go up.

PG 434 Section 1234 Military Active, Reservists, Families – If ur not enrolled in Tricare it is mandated

PG 432 Lines 18-21 The Govt will publish “quality measures” 4 individual’s end of life in Federal Register.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life.

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 – The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. Logan’s Run anyone?

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends.

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

Pg 404 Lines 17-19 Govt doesnt know the cost of Language svcs but states that money is there.

PG 404 Lines 12-16 Govt exempts itself again from – Chap 35 of title 44, USC incl. privacy of Americans.

PG 401Sec 1221 Americans will fund Medicare Language & Translation Svcs Program. Can u say MORE taxes?

Pg 399 – If ur a subsidy eligible individ under Medicare part D and u dont enroll, the Govt will autoenroll u.

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy – Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone

Pg 355-369 Sec 1181 Govt disguises tax on Drug Cos as rebate 2 Govt 2 subsidize Drugs. We pay in the end.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 – Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 – Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

Pg 328 Sec 1157 Govt study disguised. Its a HC workforce study mandated by law for unionization

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg 318-319 HC Bill – Govt is mandating how hospitals & physicians conduct business & investments. We’re nxt

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

pg 313 L 9-14 Govt MANDATES Health Svcs providrs will state ownership, invest, & compensation arrangements.

Pg 304 L 17-19 Govt does NOT have 2 protect ur priv, share w any1, & is not resp http://www.twitlonger.com/show/c5bcfdae5fa79a650bbdab6be70918ac (expand)

Pg 306 L 3-6 The Govt can expand the scope & size of Post Acute Program Svcs anytime & as they see fit.

Pg 304 L 17-19 BIG ONE HERE: Expedited Data Collection – Chapter 35 o… Read More: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/c5bcfdae5fa79a650bbdab6be70918ac (expand)

PG 303 L 12-25 Post Acute Care Svcs Data – Govt will collect data including Pers. info as they see fit.

Pg 300 Line 1-18 The Govt will MANDATE Post Acute Care svcs(what), how Drs. get paid, etc.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Govt will ration HC by mandating waiting periods for readmission.

PG 276 Line 3-20 Oxgen Equip & Supply Cos -Govt MANDATES u will provide suppl NO MATTER where indiv. is.

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

Pg 270 Sec 1144 Govt Mandates that all private ambulatory surgical centers submit cost data & other data

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

Pg 260 Sec 1125 HC Fed Govt will adjust Medicare Payment Localities 4 California based on Census. ACORN?

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans. We’re nxt.

Pg 238-249 Sec 1121 Doctors-Govt mandates ur growth, costs, value, svcs, & income. Peeps-Welcm 2 rationing

Pg 239 Line 10-12 Medicare DSH payments will be increased. Can u say even higher taxes for all?

Pg 236 Line 22-25 PG 237 Line 1-3 National rate of uninsur defind by Census. Can u say ACORN corruption?

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you’ll all be paid the same.

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

Pg 202-215 HC Bill is a GOVT rewrite of the tax code ensuring more taxes for EVERYONE, Everywhere.

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.

PG 201 Lines 12-19 HC – Govt will ignore whatever costs they see fit 2 show savings. (Cookin the books)

PG 199 Lines 1-4 HC Bill Surtax rates on raised AGAIN on Americans in 2012.

pg 198 lines 4-6 HC Bill 5.4% ADDITIONAL TAX on peeps who have income of 1mil+. Redist Wealth

pg 198 lines 1-3 HC Bill 1.5% ADDITIONAL TAX on peeps who have income of 500k to 1mil. Redist Wealth.

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc.

Pg 151 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Aggregate Rules-tax on employers payroll not on pub opt. incl payroll of other biz.

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll.

Pg 146 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE.

Pg 130 Lines 10-23 HC Bill – FedGovt will subsidize State Medicaid= Even Higher State & Fed taxes 4 ALL.

PG 129 HC Bill – The public opt will be subsidized. Credits= Ur tax dollars. Redistribution of wealth.

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors – The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.

pg 126 lines 10-15 HC Bill – The Govt can make up prices for anything at anytime for any reason.

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monop.

Pg 121 Sec 223 HC bill- PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES. Can u say Govt price fixing & monopoly?

Pg 119 HC Bill Lines 1-3 establish geographically-adj prem. rates 4 pub opt. Can u say ACORN census?

Pg 111 Sec 208 The Federal Govt will usurp all State powers in State Based HC Exchng. Violation 10th Amend.

Pg 110 Lines 13-18 An excise tax on ALL goods from companies not offering Govt HC. ALL Americans pay.

PG 110 Lines 7-12 HC Bill Employment taxes on ALL employers NOT offering Govt HC. No choice.

PG 109 Sec 207 – Health Trust Fund. The Govt will raise taxes on EVERYONE 2 fund HC as they see fit.

PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

Pg 100 HC Bill Lines 15-19 The govt WILL be using ACORN and other comm. grps to promote & enroll.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members – U Health care WILL b rationed.

Pg 98 HC Bill Line 8 – Americans u will be paying 4 others HC while paying 4 ur own.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan.

PG 89 Lines 6-10 HC Bill – The FAR is not applicable. Govt can write contracts any way they want.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill – Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange.

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 64 lines 21-25, pg65 lines 1-5 which refers 2 this http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title11/1179.htm (expand). It says the Govt does not

Pg 62 HC bill – Protection of Data, Govt shows they will have database of ur pers & financial info.

Pg 61 HC Bill lines 22-24 Congress has no clue what Elec. Med Records will cost. Asks for estimate.

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer!

Pg 58HC Bill – Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill – YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 37 Sec 132 of HC Bill – The Govt will be reviewing grievances about themselves and will decide on appeals for rejected claims.

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get.

PG 24 Sec 116 of HC bill Govt effectively sets prices for ALL private health plans. WTF!!!!

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!! WTF!!

This analysis is the from Common Sense from a Common Man





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Anonymous

Posted: Aug 01 2009, 4:01 PM

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206173 Wow thanks for all that information......
The simple thing to do would be:
Just Expand Medicare!
And keep Wall Street and the Insurance
companies out of any decision making.
JoeyTavares

Posted: Aug 02 2009, 1:40 AM

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sounds like Canada - making a little more certain that things like unnecessary hysterectomies do not happen (read for profit) is good.

The social organism evolves. Everyone has to quit playing uterus, we all have to admit we need a central brain, and that brain needs to stop lording it over the entire species...

(and stop messin\' with the kiddies, there, that ain\'t right...
winterelixir

Posted: Aug 03 2009, 8:33 AM

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And not a plain SPANISH translation? How dare they!!! *rolls eyes
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 05 2009, 9:54 PM

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72133 Before you post your comments, please take the time to really read the bill and not use out of context phrasing to create your paraphrased version.

Also, your link to the bill is not the official bill. You have to have the copy from the Government Printing Office of the Library of Congress. hat is where your representatives will get their copy of the bill they vote on.

Go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and search for bill number HR 3200.

To debunk one of your statements, pages 838-840 is not about "Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation Prog 4 families w young kids & families expect kids."

Pg. 838-840 describe an amendment to the Social Security Act in reference to states applying for grants to provide assistance to home vistation programs in the state.

The section states, "The purpose of this section is to improve the well-being, health, and development of children by enabling the establishment and expansion of high quality programs providing voluntary home visitation for families with young children and families expecting children."

Nowhere in that section does it state that the money is to be used by the govt. to design such programs. In fact, 5% of the grant needs to be held for education and training for existing programs.

The closest the section comes to mentioning any type of govt. home visitation program is where it mention Title XIX funded programs. "[I]n supporting home visitation programs using funds provided under this section, the State will promote coordination and collaboration with other home visitation programs (including programs funded under title XIX) and with other child and family services, health services, income supports, and other related assistance;"

I hope that all your readers will go to the Library of Congress and find the official bill and fact check each of your statements.
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 15 2009, 11:26 PM

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17369 To Mr Technicality
"The purpose of this section is to improve the well-being, health, and development of children by enabling the establishment and expansion of high quality programs providing voluntary home visitation for families with young children and families expecting children."
I think that qualifies for "Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation"
If they're coming to your house that is implementation, and I doubt they'll do without designing the program first.

Also missed is page 16-Keep your current insurance, but then list several poison pills that guarantee you won't be able to.

Of notable mention, by making the tax on not having "acceptable" insurance part of the IRS tax code 1989 59B, failure to pay will be TAX EVASION, a Federal Offence and could result in forfeiture of property, JAIL, and if you resist...well, you know what happens then. But hey, Big Brother only wants what's best for you..

I've only made it up to pg 4XX of this horror show. That's all I needed to see to know NO WAY NO HOW.
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 16 2009, 8:34 AM

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21659 This is not what is happening in Canada and I pray that it never does. We can never be too careful about our freedoms. Our system might not be perfect (our daughter is a registered nurse so we know what is going on) but the U.S. government is really playing on what is going on here by pulling up extreme cases.
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 17 2009, 8:38 PM

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2443 myths and lies, read the bill... http://thomas.loc.gov/
BW

Posted: Aug 19 2009, 1:57 PM

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7066 .....if i look past the bias that drips from this article.....i really don't understand how people can think that the US government is attempting mind control by improving such an awful healthcaree program.....sounds like a step in the right direction....but of course i may be wrong, and Obama really does have a private agenda of cleansing the world of old people....give me a break....
Elaine

Posted: Aug 19 2009, 4:53 PM

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7593 I am not sure that you actually read the bill. For instance there is nothing on page 50 about providing healthcare to illegal aliens. The section covering that subject is on page 143. It says:

"Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States."

If that is too complicated for you the section title sums it up:
"No Federal Payment For Undocumented Aliens."

If you are going to criticize the president's plan the least you could do is criticize what is actually in it instead of spreading misinformation. Those of us who are part of the working class in this country will benefit from this plan and anyone who opposes it either benefits from the corrupt insurance/healthcare industry or is brainwashed by the media and corporate interests.

Chris

Posted: Aug 20 2009, 1:35 AM

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...and how about the other 100+ points?
Chris

Posted: Aug 20 2009, 1:46 AM

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From the initial author:

"This isn’t my list of what’s in the health care bill. It’s my list that has been taken and altered by the Left and then in true Alinsky Rules for Radicals fashion, used as a mass/chain/spam email to Deceive, Distort, and Distract. A prime example is this:

My post – “PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.”

The Left’s altered version – “Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.”

We can see how the Left, with just a simple alteration of “will be provided with free healthcare” can change the entire meaning of what I actually said. Classic Alinsky Rules for Radicals protocol. Now, Falkenberg, I suggest you actually do some real journalistic work and read what I actually said – ‘The HC Monstrosity – All 1,018 pages’."

http://blog.flecksoflife.com/
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 20 2009, 10:48 PM

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7066 how about we stop watching FOX TV, and go outside and get to know the people we live with
Anonymous

Posted: Aug 22 2009, 5:01 AM

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71177 This is bullshit. Its reposted word for word from the Libert Council a right wing evangelical group hell bent on disruption. And it is a complete misinterpretation of the bill. The sort of interpretation a retard who couldn't read might come too if they stumbled across the bill.

Want proof? Read the bill yourself. Its at House.gov do a search for HR3200.

Here's a small sample:

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer!

This part of the Bill ACTUALLY says health care providers must offer the ability to make your payment via debit card! HOLLY SHIT how terrible right? Its just the sort of thing that will save paper, gas, time and ultimately money. For shame.
Chris is a retard.

Posted: Aug 22 2009, 5:06 AM

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71177 “PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.”

This section of the bill basically states that this law will not supersede existing laws that protect illegal immigrants from discrimination. This is important, otherwise the Bill would be deemed unconstitutional and overruled by the Supreme Court.

Pssst. Your racism is showing.

Your hatred of Mexicans or anyone even a slightly darker shade than you is disgusting. I hope you have a heart attack and your HMO claims your heart disease was a pre-existing condition!

Oh yeah, and you're a retard.
Brenda

Posted: Aug 22 2009, 8:10 AM

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6861 To Elaine: You stated that illegal aliens would not be covered based on the statement on page 143 "nothing is this subtitle shall allow federal payments for 14C on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the US". It does make this statement, however, you need to read the entire section from page 128 thru 143. All that statement is referring to is the fact that affordability premium credits will be applied against the premium for the exchange-participating health benefits plan in which an individual is enrolled, (which would lower the premium rate) for an individual. Then it makes the statement as you spelled out on page 143. All this means is that illegal aliens will not be allowed to receive the affordability premium credits toward their premiums. If you did a little more research you would find that Heller Amendment 7 was proposed in the House Ways & Means Committee to better screen applicants for subsidized health care to ensure they are actually citizens or otherwise entitled to it. This amendment was voted down by every one of the democrats on the committee. Now the question is; why would there be a need to propose this amendment if the statement you referred to on page 143 really meant that illegal aliens would not be covered. Again, all that statement on page 143 is referring to is their ability to obtain affordability premium credits which could be applied against their premiums.
Anonymous

Posted: Sep 09 2009, 7:15 PM

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69183 you are obviously watching too much fox news. you are twisting the bill and reporting half-truths to suit your right-wing interpretation. nobody listen to this guy, he is may as well just be reporting a list of his untrue opinions
Chris

Posted: Sep 09 2009, 8:11 PM

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"Your hatred of Mexicans or anyone even a slightly darker shade than you is disgusting."

LOL, I missed this post, hilarious.
Shawn

Posted: Mar 23 2010, 1:16 PM

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85118 So do you guys notice that the bill is difficult to define?

That the their entire game to produce a 1018 page bill that nobody can define what the hell they are talking about. The bill is created as a preparation stage for the NWO. It is all about control. They can create a healthcare card and make it mandatory and that can be a deception for a replacement of the national ID.

There is a lot of phrases in the bill that the government will use against Americans to make money and use to control.

The two sides you view are from the same piggy bank, they just make it look like two, it is a deception.

http://adventofdeception.com/devious-patriot-movement-illuminati
jmaynard

Posted: Mar 25 2010, 2:55 PM

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158111 Sorry Chris the Commissioned Corps of the US Public Health Service has been around since 1889. They are one of the 7 uniformed services of the US. see <a href="http://www.usphs.gov" target="_blank">www.usphs.gov</a> .
The Commissioned Officers in the service provide health care to our military, those in prision, and serve as a ready trained Corps to meet pbulic health and medical needs during times of man made and or natural disaster. There is nothing communist going on here. The Corps was limited by law to 6000 members, now there can be more members (you can learn the medical and or public health qualifications to join at <a href="http://www.usphs.gov" target="_blank">www.usphs.gov</a>) to better meet the needs of America's people during times of natural diasater and Lord forbid a terrorist attack.
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9787 WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!!There will not be the America that we grew up with if the DISASTER is fully implemented. We need to defund this thing NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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