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Article posted Jan 25 2009, 10:58 AM Category: History Source: Adam Curtis Print

The Living Dead

Three Films About the Power of the Past

"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." - George Orwell

Out of the carnage of WWII the Allies selected certain memories to build the official version of "the good war." This film shows why certain memories needed to be buried and forgotten because they contradicted the optimism of "the big historical picture".

Film by Adam Curtis, Originally aired on BBC Two in 1995.

On the Desperate Edge of Now
Part One

This episode examined how the various national memories of the Second World War were effectively rewritten and manipulated in the Cold War period.

For Germany, this began at the Nuremberg Trials, where attempts were made to prevent the Nazis in the dock—principally Hermann Göring—from offering any rational argument for what they had done. Subsequently, however, bringing lower-ranking Nazis to justice was effectively forgotten about in the interests of maintaining West Germany as an ally in the Cold War.

For the Allied countries, faced with a new enemy in the Soviet Union, there was a need to portray WW2 as a crusade of pure good against pure evil, even if this meant denying the memories of the Allied soldiers who had actually done the fighting, and knew it to have been far more complex. A number of American veterans told how years later they found themselves plagued with the previously-suppressed memories of the brutal things they had seen and done. The title comes from a veteran's description of what the uncertainty of survival in combat is like.

You Have Used Me as a Fish Long Enough
Part Two

In this episode, the history of brainwashing and mind control was examined. The angle pursued by Curtis was the way in which psychiatry pursued tabula rasa theories of the mind, initially in order to set people free from traumatic memories and then later as a potential instrument of social control. The work of Ewen Cameron was surveyed, with particular reference to Cold War theories of communist brainwashing and the search for hypnoprogammed assassins.

The programme's thesis was that the search for control over the past via medical intervention had had to be abandoned and that in modern times control over the past is more effectively exercised by the manipulation of history.

Some film from this episode, an interview with one of Cameron's victims, was later re-used by Curtis in his The Century of the Self.

The title of this episode comes from a paranoid schizophrenic seen in archive film in the programme, who believed her neighbours were using her as a source of amusement by denying her any privacy, like a pet goldfish.

The Attic
Part Three

In this episode, the Imperial aspirations of Margaret Thatcher were examined. The way in which Mrs Thatcher used public relations in an attempt to emulate Winston Churchill in harking back to Britain's "glorious past" to fulfil a political or national end.

The title is a reference to the attic flat at the top of 10 Downing Street, which was created during Thatcher's period refurbishment of the house, which did away with the Prime Minister's previous living quarters on lower floors. Scenes from The Innocents (film) the adaptation of The Turn of the Screw by Henry James are intercut with Thatcher's reign.

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Posted: Jan 26 2009, 9:04 AM

Control is exerted through orchestrated ignorance and its companion fear. It requires regardless our acceptance when we know any power over an individual which is beyond reach is of itself a threat. I am not in denial, it is a con and the bbc is the queen of deception.

I would like to evidence in black white the con using their own words and one of the worst terrorist weapons which is known to people as law. As I was discussiong on the internet the arrest of Ms Elizabeth Windsor with full duty of care and without malice, I thought I would have a look at their treason laws for mankind as a whole has been betrayed by our acceptance, quite often the acceptance of the con.

In MI6's 1984

<He did not do so, however, because he knew that it was useless. Whether the wrote DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER, or whether he refrained from writing it, made no difference. Whether he went on with the diary, or whether he did not go on with it, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed — would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper — the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed for ever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you.>

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 9:15 AM

The layered mind control system makes if very difficult for people to see what is right in front of their noses. One of the most sophisticated layered mind control broadcasts I have looked at recently was what is known as the queen's speech, the title itself a deception which was broadcast incidentally by the BBC>

Here is one of their laws, less you think thoughtcrime or global dicatorship cons are new. Such is the con of law that I have had to send off some of what I was looking at for decryption but in this instance it is in black and white:

<3. If any person whatsoever shall, within the United Kingdom or without, compass, imagine, invent, devise, or intent to deprive or depose our Most Gracious Lady the Queen, from the style, honour, or royal name of the imperial crown of the United Kingdom, or any other of her Majesty's dominions and countries, or to levy war against her Majesty, within any part of the United Kingdom, in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both Houses or either House of Parliament, or to move or stir any foreigner or stranger with force to invade the United Kingdom or any other of her Majesty's dominions or countries under the obeisance of her Majesty, and such compassings, imaginations, inventions, devices, or intentions, or any of them, shall express, utter, or declare, by publishing any print or writing [F3] or by any overt act or deed, every person so offending shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable [F4] to be transported beyond the seas for the term or his or her natural life [F4].

Treason Felony Act 1848
An Act for the better Security of the Crown and Government of the United Kingdom

You might have noticed George Bush selling this con, in the case of Obama even dodging the oath.

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 9:24 AM

if you want to learn about the past, it's important to talk to old people, find out what they experienced rather than what official history would want you to believe is true. the veterans of war, in particular, have many important lessons to teach us all. we must learn from the mistakes of the past, else we will continue to repeat those same mistakes, over and over and over again. every voice matters, not just the few who make it past the BBC censors.

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 9:25 AM

These capers tend to always require a protection device, quite often a piece of paper, an image of a person, something which is out reach.

Whilst Iraq is being stolen, its people tortured, maimed and systematically murdered in a planned campaign of genocide, to even think of challenging such a lifestyle is a felony. That is a protection racket, a house of cards as that con exists only in the minds of the people that believe or accept it.

There you have it in the words of uniform commercial code, proof that in WWI to create the league of nations, in WWII as the Americans didn't buy the con the creation of the UN, the war was fighting against the freedom of all, fighting against the very charter that the UN shows to people.

(As America were not for the league of nations despite the powers of the mockingbird media, a field office of the UN was stuck smack in New York, they said this was headquarters despite the big one being in Switzerland, they said it was an American problem. Now America funds and builds it. They said the UN location is 'international territory', another con.)

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 9:58 AM

I said layered programming, I think an example helps. In America exposure of the tax con has ripped round the net, it became almost a stock expression; 'show me the law'.

I have just shown you the law, it is a con, a fiction itself. If you check UCC definitions it is also explicit, everything a person, only human beings don't exist.

(30) "Person" includes an individual or an organization (28).
(28) "Organization" includes a corporation, government or governmental subdivision or agency, business trust, estate, trust, partnership or association, two or more persons having a joint or common interest, or any other legal or commercial entity.

If one believes in UCC ie earth under the babylonian talmud then the windsors are a person, ie a corporation. A corporatation seems more apt.

In reply to friendstacy, I don't rely on a single source. Living libraries have been useful, after hearing about britain running the war, Hitler being a british agent trained in britain I went off to check. In that checking I talked to living libraries.

One day by chance just sitting on a bench next to a retired chap enjoying the day. It just so happens he was in the bombing crews so I asked him about the protected bombing list avoiding the war machine. He not only confirmed it, when I asked him how he knew he said everyone new. I guess they had to or some gun hoe chap would think he was doing a good deed by using up bombs on a failed bombing raid and this could have hurt the war. He looked at me, if I can remember his words correctly it was something like "I understand they are careful not to allow this into schools". He flew out of the 2nd largest industrial city at the end of war, they had finally been told to bomb it, presumably to help destroy the evidence of a fake war. That is just an example, by similar means I confirmed british agent Adolf Hitler.

I have had information which can mislead from living libraries. If you were there you might think you know. My mother lived as a child through the blitz of London, she saw it, as she would see it what the Nazi's did. She wouldn't have known those incendary bombs were british built and secretly sent out to germany as hitler was. The fire service were assaulted by british intelligence, truth is not tolerated as the words in the name of 'her majesty' as proven above. This happened on 9/11, that too is evidenced on this site because a UK fireman discussed 9/11 here, he wasn't buying the official story and after reporting he was assaulted by the police he disappeared. My thoughts are with him, so is help if he is watching. A schindler list is up and running as no one can claim political asylum from the empire, I am sure American of all people will know freemasonry is everywhere, they founded their nation in their likeness and left evidence everywhere.

I have included first hand experience, people cannot therefore say I read it on the net, in a book, someone told me. No no no, this was not hearsay, I went behind the iron curtain and it isn't the kind of wall most can see.

<The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. - John Hay, 1872>

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 10:30 AM

As for the BBC I have had many personal experiences, all of them unusual, quite often in the extreme. I mentioned a list, some people out there were telling the truth and one man, a quasi insider had been doing this in court which was helping pull down a caper using the crown to institute a global police state. I popped to the court as it seemed they would try and kill him. As dawn broke I was out there, just being there, just watching and later in the day I searched cars, I knew who they were but even for myself I need to prove things and on the dashboard was a scrappy piece of paper which gave the game away; 'EIIR'.

A man came up to me who was doing sound recording, he said he was the editor for the BBC. He was a counter intelligence officer, they are even they don't know it, that is what that alphabet agency is and it was clear to me just looking at his eyes that he had what I would call toxic mind control. He said to me something like '... but here is your chance to speak'. As he was walking backwards to keep the microphone on me the poor chap fell over just as I was saying that I knew what they did with words. Incidentally the BBC had no real story at all. No other tv crew were there, the BBC and various military appendages were. They didn't get the story but I watched as the public face of what is called 'journalism' were literally writing it before anything had happened.

Powerland is parallised, they are in a difficult position to help and need ours. Those who work under orders are not bound just by words, regardless they need to be free, we all do. Freedom starts in the mind, this we can do ourselves, it is one of the things that is contageous that isn't a disease.
UK Fireman

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 11:23 AM

21386 Dave

It is comforting to know, considering how long ago those views were exchanged, that there is someone out there who spares a thought for another whom he has never seen in person. That is where, these days, I try to take crumbs of comfort.

I can assure you that I still visit this site but rarely post, despite the fact that you encouraged me to do more of it. However, I do not watch TV nor read newspapers and I can honestly say that it is a liberating experience. Opting instead to rely on my own judgment and listen to/read/learn from others who are living the news not writing or filming it.

It is easy to feel quite alone when the vast majority of my peers do not, or are not willing to, accept that this physical life is not quite the life they think they are living. I am not, for one minute, suggesting that I know more than them or am superior in intelligence/common sense. But simply making the suggestion to them that what they hear/see/listen to through the media might not be even close to the truth, is usually greeted with derision or disinterest.

I hope you are well Dave, and believe me the experience I shared with you and the grief it caused was halved just by sharing it here. I would also be interested to know if your comment and help being here if I needed it was a general comment or you might have some information on what happened to me.


Posted: Jan 26 2009, 11:45 AM

<who spares a thought for another whom he has never seen in person. That is where, these days, I try to take crumbs of comfort.>

It is not crumb, it is the first thing I think of each time I visit this site since you left. There are many ways that truth disappears, when someone in the corporation speaks it is counted as the official story, truth is controlled or not tolerated. At the very least they can fire people, replace them with people who will live the lie and we end up in a downward spiral.

<It is easy to feel quite alone>

You are far far from alone. I go out and check, I talk to people, there is something they will say, a gesture, it gives away that deep down they know, they know they are living a lie but stuck in denial.

<But simply making the suggestion to them that what they hear/see/listen to through the media might not be even close to the truth, is usually greeted with derision or disinterest.>

Someone was talking to me recently after watching at the news. I pointed at the television and said something but most of what I said was written in my eyes. The person put their head down saying quietly 'perhaps it is best not to know'. That is the level to which the human race has been driven to.

<I would also be interested to know if your comment and help being here if I needed it was a general comment or you might have some information on what happened to me.>

There is a hint in a quote I made above, I know something of how the power game works. Quite often when I first get to know people who have stood by the truth I am just waiting, quite often it comes out later but in general I know what would have happened to them in the specific circumstances they are in. I hadn't made a general comment to you, if you email the webmaster he will have my email address, not a secret but I could do without the spam.

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 12:15 PM

Before WWII of course people knew the con going down. Intelligence agencies are counter intelligence agencies, protecting the power con, interlocked in failure mode as they all share each other's cons. They control not just their populations but especially the puppet officials. One group that organised itself knowing the war con was simply thrown in jail before the war. That doesn't work, things are best out in the open, it is the secrets that maintain the paralysis.

Real help already starts that you are here, in touch it goes further than that as the nonsense I do not accept is fiddling with people that find their own truth and stand by it. We failed before by not supporting such people; not this time.

I have only listened to the first 60 seconds of the bbc video, it opens with a lie.

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 1:39 PM

UK fireman, the public are not supposed to have useful truth. Quite often they believe the world as presented (the image) is real but very often they stumble on an unnacceptable truth and enter officialdom thinking it is real. The system is designed for that and many just walk away falling for the misdirects or by being worn down. Some don't and of course those in the system live under even more blindness so sometimes they act on what they think they should be doing.

The public is unlikely to know the scale of the illusion or even that it is, or the secret state and quite often they do penetrating damage to the illusion itself. As members of the public, they won't know a tax enquiry that suddenly appears is related, a business deal has suddenly gone sour is related as all they did might have been to ask questions. Without knowing how things really work they have no reason to notice how things are connected. As I talk to people I notice the patterns, it is something we are all good at doing.

I think you mentioned police intervention. Information is compartmentalised, what often happens is at different levels police are given information, thus when the police turn out to arrest someone who has damaged the system by raising a real issue, the victim believes what is happening is real and quite likely the police who do it don't even know they were setup or what they were really doing.

The company created their own police force, run by the freemasons, the link to the central banking system was something that offialdom inadvertantly evidenced for me. I took the trouble to evidence the illusion and from several angles, it a farse when you walk inside the illusion and see it. It was only a matter of a few weeks ago I woke up to three police coming towards me. Knowing the game my only thoughts were 'what nonsense is it this time'. They were under mind control but their training is largely to create authority out of thin air. The chap asked for my name, I told him 'I cannot talk to you as a police officer but I will talk to you on anything as a human being.' He got up, kept saying 'if you don't give us your name we will arrest you and ask at the station'. He knew he had just threatened me, he knew right in front of me he had really shown his weakness when he knew I wasn't being coy or argumentive but wouldn't play the game. His mind control was fracturing in front of me as to continue with his act had become rediculous as he knew and I knew it was an act. People have been so caught up in the act that we forget it is just an act.

Posted: Jan 26 2009, 5:13 PM

Hey Dave will you send me your email address? I'm not sure which one is yours. (I had to reinstall outlook)

Posted: Jan 27 2009, 4:45 AM

98217 The UK is dead?

Rogers: UK system 'is finished'

Posted: Jan 27 2009, 7:42 AM

The UK system has raped and pillaged the entire planet, that was substantially hidden from the resident population and in no small measure due to a counter intelligence agency known as the BBC.

As more and more people come to realise the cons of history we are living, and what the truth is, life changes. Much as there are those who want to manipulate everyone else's life people are now taking charge of their own.

If a lone individual takes an interest finding and sharing the truth the empire is after them, that just shows the difference each person can make.

"they tell us we need government, it's for our own good, you know. or worse, it's for the good of the group, which in essence means that individuals don't matter. i am of the opinion that individuals do matter, that each one of us is more important than any group to which we might claim to belong, that our inner sense of right and wrong is more important than any rules or laws that tell us how to act." - friendstacy

Posted: Jul 24 2009, 9:17 PM

205188 Turn off tv. Don't read newpapers.....
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