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Article posted Jun 30 2008, 11:26 PM Category: Occult Source: Google Video Print

Shadows in Motion




"...there is in Italy a power which we seldom mention in this House...I mean the secret societies...It is useless to deny, because it is impossible to conceal, that a great part of Europe - the whole of Italy and France and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries - is covered with a network of these secret societies, just as the superficies of the earth is now being covered with railroads. And what are their objectives? They do not want constitutional goverment; they do not want ameliorated institutions... they want to change the tenure of land, to drive out the present owners of the soil and put an end to ecclesiastical establishments. Some of them may go further..."
- Benjamin Disraell in the House of Commons, July 14th, 1856





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didymus

Posted: Jul 03 2008, 6:37 PM

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68217 I'm sorry...I must take exception to the new world order beginning in 1096 beginning with the Crusades, especially the part about the "rape of women and children". A more balanced approach is needed here...
didymus

Posted: Jul 03 2008, 6:51 PM

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68217 How are these people? I'm hip to the idea of freemason control in the world, but this film is full of anachronisms. The film claims as they are showing scenes from The Patriot about the American Revolution yet talking about mistakes learned from the French. The French Revolution happened after the American Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars...c'mon.
Didymus

Posted: Jul 03 2008, 8:54 PM

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68217 Oh...this is a muslim film...slightly slanted, wouldn't you say?
Chris

Posted: Jul 03 2008, 10:04 PM

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Yes, it is not perfect, take it for what it's worth, certainly "Allah" isn't going to swoop in and save us all.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 06 2008, 4:20 PM

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2463 >>>68.217.XXX.XXX
I'm sorry...I must take exception to the new world order beginning in 1096 beginning with the Crusades, especially the part about the "rape of women and children". A more balanced approach is needed here... <<<

Lets go back before 1096 and see what we find.

Quotes From Key Freemasons Pt 1 of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7Lztcem4&feature=related

A note.
In many videos I see the upside down cross and saying it represents a satanic symbol.
I was taught it represented...
well, this web page describes it best:
http://www.stpetersdelaware.com/cross.htm

and here:
http://www.ichthys.com/mail-peter.htm
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 06 2008, 5:28 PM

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2463 Now, if after all this (and more that you can discover on your own) you can do and think what you want.

"Do What You Want"..?......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F83XhHZPHnc
dave

Posted: Jul 06 2008, 7:04 PM

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<In many videos I see the upside down cross and saying it represents a satanic symbol. I was taught it represented...>
It is one of many traps for any researcher. Often the truth is hijacked, a lie slapped straight on top of it, and that is the foundation for all the subsequent lies. Working in reverse it is no simple task to know if you have found the truth or just an earlier lie.

<Do What You Want"?>
The NWO hide behind anything they can, this includes organised religion (thesis) and satan and similar cults (antithesis). More and more people are realising what they really want, it isn't the NWO, their terrorism and mayhem.

As the Lisbon treaty has been rejected by Ireland, the EU and UN are scuppered by law. That still leaves quite a few cons but at least that one is seen now. Legally the EU and UN are history and for once the truth is being realised real time.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 06 2008, 7:39 PM

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2463 >>>>It is one of many traps for any researcher. Often the truth is hijacked, a lie slapped straight on top of it, and that is the foundation for all the subsequent lies. Working in reverse it is no simple task to know if you have found the truth or just an earlier lie. <<<

And in the case of Noam Chomsky,
I read contradictory information for what he really is about.
Like you said, here in this case for me "its no simple task to know if you have found the truth or just an earlier lie."
dave

Posted: Jul 06 2008, 7:56 PM

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<I read contradictory information for what he really is about.>
I was impressed when I came across Noam, but then I looked at the organisations he worked for and thought about what he wasn't saying. It is the old trick when you tell the people what they want to hear. I consider Ron Paul very dangerous for that reason as it has people believing in politics which keeps the racket going. Again things he doesn't say are relevant. The fact people like some of what he says shows people didn't need advice, they didn't need a bought and paid for actor to stand up and say the federal reserve and the alphabet agencies they employ were harming America and through that the entire world.
Didymus

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 1:54 AM

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68217 To Dave: "so why is Ron Paul "dangerous", exactly? He has spoken out about the power elite and was practically ignored in the "debates". Sometimes what the people want and need are the same thing.
dave

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 8:02 AM

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I respond first with general comments though a very similar stunt was recently launched in the UK, in that instance I was awake in advance so the evidence is in. I suggest if you set aside for a moment words you have liked hearing then the view may become a little clearer. Also of note, in my view a true friend of the American people will tell them what they don't want to hear no matter how unpopular that is.

From what I have seen of history, nations are determined by the people or by government. The people cannot responsibly manage government, this is proven right now today. In terms of popularity contests, elections and the public face of government, that is something Ron Paul is perpetuating and it is I allege a lie, a lie that enslaves and destroys the people of America.

As a small specific example I did enquire of Ron Paul directly if he could help people who are victims of his own state, the answer from his staff can be accurately summised as no. I am giving my view, nothing more or less but I am putting my thoughts unfiltered into words here. I don't wave any flag, I am a human being like everyone else. I was born in london, the city of london being directly responsible for the slaughter of American people and much of the very mess of past and present out there. From what I have realised I have responsibility for what is happening out there and I seek to stand between the US corporation and its people and I filed officially against the US government both public and secret.

As human beings we make mistakes, sometimes we even do that on purpose but we can reconcile these things when we learn the truth of them, recognise the errors and accept ourselves as we are. I not only place great store in the people of America, I have seen the dreams and aspirations alive in the people out there. This needs to be set free, that freedom starts in the mind. The government is a terrorist organisation, would the American people suggest Al Qaeda votes for a new leader? If not why have that insane nonsense at home.

If you are suggesting that the hopes of America can be vested in the form of promises from a career politician, I suggest that is history repeating itself. I don't say these things to cause offense, I say them because I believe they are true.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 9:43 AM

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2463 >>>>If you are suggesting that the hopes of America can be vested in the form of promises from a career politician, I suggest that is history repeating itself<<<<

I hear today the election promises and the people applauding and believing (True Believers ( A book title) these promises.

For decades I heard promises.
And there were always new wars and conflicts.
Now I am not so sure and very skeptical of promises.

I worked at a security checkpoint overseen by military and police with guns and they would chat, laugh and smile with us.
I turned to my co-worker and reminded him that : "He IS NOT our friend."
Is the Government our friend?

Does History Repeat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhIredAVFtk


Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 9:51 AM

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2463
History repeating itself? Rock on you mystical maniacal civilization! Valley of Ashes found in the book "The Great Gatsby ... History repeating itself? Rock on you mystical maniacal civilization!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QMMEbh2wWE
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Valley of Ashes found in the book "The Great Gatsby"
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Tiny Cities Made of Ashes

We're going down the road
Towards tiny cities made of ashes
I'm going to hit you on the face
I'm going to punch you in your glasses
Oh no!
I just got a message that said
"Yeah, hell has frozen over"
I got a phone call from the Lord
Saying, "Hey, boy, get a sweater right now"
So we're drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking
Coca, Coca-Cola
I can feel it rolling right on down
Oh, right on down my throat
And as we're headed down the road
Towards tiny cities made of ashes
I'm going to get dressed up in plastic
Going to shake hands with the masses
Oh no!

Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Does anybody know a way?
Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Does anybody know a way?

We're going down the road
Towards tiny cities made of ashes
I'm going to hit you on the face
I'm going to punch you in your glasses
I'm wearing myself a t-shirt
That says, "The world is my ashtray"
Our hearts pump dust
And our hair's all gray
And I just got a message
Saying that hell has frozen over
Got a phone call from the Lord
Saying, "Hey, boy, get a sweater right now!"

Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Does anybody know a way?
Does anybody know a way?

We're drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking
Coca, Coca-Cola
I can feel it rolling right on down
Oh, right on down my throat
And as we're headed down the road
Towards tiny cities made of ashes
I'm going to lay down in the spa
Where they coat you in molasses
Right now!

Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Does anybody know a way?
Does anybody know a way that a body could get away?
Does anybody know a way?

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Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 10:00 AM

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2463
What promises
got us
gives us.

What promises
DOES to us.

Apokalyptika
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvCpZ8xcOo


Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 12:09 PM

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691 To Dave: but I thought that Ron Paul was telling us what we didn't want to hear - that our government is screwing us. I didn't understand what you wrote after "I am giving..." nor how it furthers the argument. I still don't understand your point about Ron Paul. Are you suggesting that he's a disinformant?
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 5:13 PM

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206173 LIBERTARIANISM IS JUST ANARCHY FOR RICH PEOPLE

http://www.rumorsdaily.com/brd/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/no-exit-libertarianism-anarchy-for-rich-people.GIF

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/07/no-exit-libertarianism-is-anarchy-for-rich-people/

http://www.philaahzophy.com/2007/08/06/libertarianism-is-anarchy-for-rich-people-pic/

More Andy Singer Cartoons:
http://www.andysinger.com/
dave

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 5:17 PM

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<thought that Ron Paul was telling us what we didn't want to hear - that our government is screwing us>
I think the public in general know this (though not many of the pertinent details myself included) and I think they do like to hear that.

I recently sent a clip to an American to show what the House of Commons in Britain was like, they were shocked that such an apalling act passed as government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsAa9VmwOaI&feature=related

As I understand it Tony Blair's scripts were written by a security agency front known as the policy network, staff including members from what are publicly presented as in opposition of one another.
http://www.policy-network.net/aboutus/index.aspx?id=62
which is now operating to the global domination mandate
http://mediazone.brighttalk.com/event/PolicyNetwork/9aa42b3188-1421-intro

The collossal shadow world is supranational, the vehicle through which they have been operating is national government. The power came from the people, people who gave up their self sovereignty and turned it over to government.
dave

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 5:31 PM

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Some words from Ron Paul have been popular, people have enjoyed hearing them. He points to words in the form of the US constitution, a foundation con that has been exposed in some detail here though formally abolished by the national security act.

I looked at the option of government in some detail, with the power that exists there, there is an option to eliminate considerable hardship for all the problems that have now been created through government's existence. What if someone honest did stand for government, someone who wouldn't tolerate so called advisors. In my view that did happen but she wasn't popular, she really did upset people.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 6:17 PM

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70152 So...Dave, then you're an anarchist? If not, what do you believe in politically? If so, then what do you believe in politically?
dave

Posted: Jul 07 2008, 6:49 PM

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I believe in self sovereignty, I wouldn't call that an ism or politics, I call it the truth.

To look at the question you raise from a different angle, imagine I walk in to the White House as president right now and ponder what it is I must do.

Mankind needs water, that drops from the sky. Mankind needs food, that grows in the ground. Some people struggle without enough rain and arable land, old technology like zero point energy can provide energy for domestic use as it can for transportation.

I consider the unnexpected so I imagine someone comes in and says a new problem has been found for which there is no solution but one is needed. That is easy, with a world at peace I have the best resources on tap, the people, all people. They say two heads are better than one but why not tell everyone, it is their problem.

That would really leave me only one task to perform in office, to tell the American people that government is a con. So in my first day in office I can resign but I leave in my resignation letter one suggestion, that the White House becomes a museum that every child can visit it to know what would happen if this con were ever repeated.

As it is the world is distracted, lied to and people look outside of themselves for solutions. I try to help empower them, for some 5 years in looking for the truth I have found myself studying lies full time, an endless stream of them.

The government exert control through orchestrated chaos. You used the word anarchy, the meaning of that term was in my view deliberately twisted as it means freedom. Personally I don't believe one size fits all, labels only divide people, with a conscience no law of man has supremacy.
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