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Analysis posted Jun 16 2014, 1:06 AM Category: Big Brother/Orwellian Source: InformationLiberation Print

Obama Admin Seeks Authority To Ruin All GPS Navigation Systems

Chris | InformationLiberation

From The New York Times:
Getting directions on the road from Google Maps and other smartphone apps is a popular alternative to the expensive navigation aids included in some cars. The apps are also a gray area when it comes to laws banning the use of cellphones or texting while driving.

The Transportation Department wants to enter the argument.

The department is intensifying its battle against distracted driving by seeking explicit authority from Congress to regulate navigation aids of all types, including apps on smartphones.

The measure, included in the Obama administration’s proposed transportation bill, would specify that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has the authority to set restrictions on the apps and later order changes if they are deemed dangerous, much the way it currently regulates mechanical features of cars.

The measure has the support of automakers, which already mostly comply with voluntary guidelines for built-in navigation systems, but it has run into stiff opposition from technology companies, which say that any such law would be impractical and impossible to enforce. It’s another example, they say, of federal regulators trying vainly to keep up with a rapidly changing industry.

“They don’t have enough software engineers,” said Catherine McCullough, executive director of the Intelligent Car Coalition, an industry group. “They don’t have the budget or the structure to oversee both Silicon Valley and the auto industry.”
...but they do have the guns of government.

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Posted: Jun 16 2014, 3:30 PM

6856 In fact, this measure has my support as well. When application like Waze is inviting to start online chat with other "wazers" who happen to drive around, and even earn some points for that, I always have a feeling that someone has to stop this stupidity.

Posted: Jun 16 2014, 5:02 PM

Just because something can be done doesn't mean it will be done. If you think the government should prohibit all potentially dangerous behaviour which may possibly be done you'll be living in a total police state, just like the one we have now (I was going to say in the future, but it's already here precisely because of such thoughts).

Posted: Jun 16 2014, 10:54 PM

6856 Prohibiting hurting others is government function. And when there's some behavior that has significant objective potential to hurt others, it's government function to block it. Drunk driving is absolutely the same issue - it has very high potential to increase the probability of hurting other people many times over. Is everybody so responsible that drunk driving could be de-criminalized? no, it's not. Temptation does exist, many people do need strong deterrent to withstand it, and so drunk driving is illegal in the whole world except Bhutan, Vietnam, Angola, and several similar others.

When there's real research supporting the correlation between certain behavior and subsequent crime, there's nothing wrong with blocking the behavior. Such as, you do block mentally ill from obtaining a firearm. The police state you are talking about would be A-ok if only it wasn't 99.9% bs going not after real crime but rather after easy and completely irrelevant targets identified by illiterate bureaucrats hired on the basis of political correctness and trying to make a career in the vacuum of any real material to work with - your today's story about tsa search of mini-mi is a perfect illustration.

Posted: Jun 17 2014, 2:19 AM

174131 @6856 Controlling others is government function. If government function was to prohibit hurting others then the US wouldn't be hurting lives and property throughout the middle east. After our government has contaminated much of the Iraq countryside with DU it becomes a little awkward to play the humanitarian benevolence card.

The "drunk" part of the drunk driving charge confers that the probability of damage to person or property becomes so high at an arbitrary point of saturation that almost any degree of governmental intervention is acceptable. Yet I know a man who received a drunk driving citation for sleeping in his turned off parked vehicle. This vehicle was in a large parking lot and not impeding traffic in any way. Clearly prohibiting hurting others was not the motive for this man's citation. Maybe it's about control and money.

The second word in "drunk driving" is driving. Driving is the part we should focus on. They already have laws against reckless driving. These laws are about prohibiting hurting others. With today's technology wouldn't it be a simple matter for the officer in the patrol car to video record the vehicle engaged in the activity of dangerous driving? At this point the officer would have a slam dunk case to prosecute the driver of the vehicle regardless of whether he had been drinking or not.
By concentrating on reckless driving infractions we could eliminate the inconvenience and impediment of traffic (not to mention the violation of fourth amendment rights) that are the DWI checkpoints, unless of course it's about control and money.

Posted: Jun 17 2014, 7:23 PM

6856 @174131, we are in agreement - policing is necessary and useful provided that it's competent and goes for the real objective to reduce the crime, rather than for phony technicalities like sitting in the stopped car in the parking lot. From my own encounters with the police, it looks like they completely lost the sense that they are actually supposed to fight real crime - they have too many other opportunities. In larger scale, US government has completely lost the sense that it's supposed to implement politics for the benefit of the American people - they too have too many other opportunities.

Posted: Jun 18 2014, 11:40 AM

174131 @ 6856 I believe we do agree that policing could be a good thing, if they were agents of justice and would stick to things like catching rapist, murderers and thieves. Around here they mostly concentrate on drug enforcement and traffic tickets. Lots of traffic tickets.
The amount of tax money we spend on policing as it exists today is a poor bargain, so I tend to look at them less as necessary and useful and more as unavoidable.


Posted: Jun 20 2014, 12:42 AM

6656 My question is who gets to decide what is deemed dangerous behavior

Posted: Jun 20 2014, 12:47 AM

6656 And when did we get the intelligent car coalition?? Lol

Posted: Jun 20 2014, 10:26 AM

16240 6656 that is a good question. I don't know the answer but the system we have now stinks. The enforcement and application of laws, rules, codes, mandates and regulations seems to be primarily for the purpose of self perpetuating the current system.
Any time the state ventures its tentacles into the precrime/thought crime, no clear victim arena it's going to cost the lower and middle classes. I think that is proven by the proliferation of the private prison industry.
The volume and vagueness of a lot of these rules have lead to the country becoming one big plantation for the state, and we are their harvest.
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