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Analysis posted Jul 09 2012, 8:08 AM Category: Tyranny/Police State Source: InformationLiberation Print

General McChrystal Says It's Time To Bring Back Slavery

Chris | InformationLiberation

Gen. McChrystal says the only way to get people to support the troops is to force them to become one, that's why he says if the U.S. launches another war the government should bring back forced military servitude in the form of a draft.

Via Stripes.com:
WASHINGTON Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the former top commander of international forces in Afghanistan, said this week that the United States should bring back the draft if it ever goes to war again.

"I think we ought to have a draft. I think if a nation goes to war, it shouldn't be solely be represented by a professional force, because it gets to be unrepresentative of the population," McChrystal said at a late-night event June 29 at the 2012 Aspen Ideas Festival. "I think if a nation goes to war, every town, every city needs to be at risk. You make that decision and everybody has skin in the game."

He argued that the burdens of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been properly shared across the U.S. population, and emphasized that the U.S. military could train draftees so that there wouldn't be a loss of effectiveness in the war effort.

"I've enjoyed the benefits of a professional service, but I think we'd be better if we actually went to a draft these days," he said. "There would some loss of professionalism, but for the nation it would be a better course."

The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq placed unfair and extreme burdens on the professional military, especially reservists, and their families, McChrystal said.

"We've never done that in the United State before; we've never fought an extended war with an all- volunteer military. So what it means is you've got a very small population that you're going to, and you're going to it over and over again," he said. "Because it's less than one percent of the population . . . people are very supportive but they don't have the same connection to it."

Reservists following multiple deployments have trouble maintaining careers and families and have a "frighteningly high" rate of suicide, he said.

"The reserve structure is designed for major war, you fight and then you stop, but what we've done instead is gone back over and over to the same people," he said. "We're going to have to relook the whole model because I don't think we can do this again."

[...]Multiple deployments often result in divorces and split families, he said.

"The marriages I see most strained are the senior NCOs (non-commissioned officers) and officers who have four or five tours . . . you're apart so much that it's hard to have a marriage if you're not together at least a critical mass of time, and that's tough," McChrystal said.
Yeah, it's always "for the children."





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Anonymous

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 9:28 AM

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7414 Yeah, this isn't hard to figure out. American soldiers signed up to defend their Constitution, their People and their way of life, and were then promptly thrown into a meat grinder for 5, 6 , 7, 8 consecutive tours in an unwinnable and unjustifiable occupation of a sovereign nation that is no threat to the US.
And Americans aren't crowding the recruiting offices you say?
Maybe Americans read things like :
"Military Men Are Just Dumb, Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns In Foreign Policy" -henry kissinger
I think Americans have had enough, they won't respond well to a draft.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 10:38 AM

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71118 A draft will reveal the chicken hawks for the true cowards they are. Public support for the needless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will go away overnight, as everyones children will be equally commited. If we reinstate the draft, we might avoid the Syrian conflict and any further ground invasion of Tehran.

As it stands, military recruiters find poor kidscoming out of high school and pump them with lofty ideas about freedom and enforcing democracy. These kids figure out that they are state sanctioned murderers and more of them choose to off themselves than are killed in conflict. That is the real truth about war and the hell it brings, there is nothing romantic about it.

The draft is the great equaliser to ending public support for these aggressive imperialist wars. I wonder if McChristal knows this or is trying to make sure that we never see a shared sacrifice in our military ranks. His support for the draft for the wrong reasons could mean the end of it.
Peter

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 11:20 AM

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81161 What the Hell kinda closet-pacifist is that general ?

I think it's a great idea, end the mercenary wars ..
Sgt W

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 2:24 PM

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174252 What kind of sensationalist journalism is this? Equating a draft to slavery is absolute nonsense Stan McChrystal is an absolute professional who dedicated his entire adult life to the defense of an ungrateful nation. It's so easy to hide behind a keyboard and make ridiculous statements like these to tarnish his good name, but do you honestly presume to know more about national defense than a man with decades of experience in protecting our freedoms and way of life? It was people who acted so presumtuously on the first place that landed him where he ended up. The reality is he has forgotten more about how to ensure the safety of a nation that you or I will ever know.

This nation owes General McChrystal a debt of gratitude for his selfless service and sacrifice, not misquoting and defamatory comments. I'd be willing to bet the author of this article has never served.

In order for free men to remain free, hard men must be willing to do violence on their behalf. It's a cold, bitter reality that is so repulsive to our fragile little politically-correct minds, but nonetheless it is an unfortunate aspect of human nature.

Sgt W, USMC
OIF/OEF 2003,2004,2005.
9/11 WTC First Responder
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 2:59 PM

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1272 "We have shot an amazing number of people, but to my knowledge, none has ever proven to be a threat." - General Stanley McChrystal, senior American and NATO commander in Afghanistan, 2009

"All war is class struggle... Rich people start wars, poor people die and resources are stolen, banks emptied and all of it hidden behind flag waving and childish scare tactics. War is part of the grander plan." - Gordon Duff, Marine Vietnam veteran, 100% disabled

"War makes money for the politically connected. While the flag-waving population remains proud of the service of their sons, brothers, husbands, fathers, cousins, wives, mothers and daughters, the smart boys who got the fireworks started are rolling in the mega-millions. As General Smedley Butler told the jingoistic American population, to no avail, 'war is a racket.' As long as the American population remains proud that their relatives serve as cannon fodder for the military/security complex, war will remain a racket." - Paul Craig Roberts

yarply

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 8:43 PM

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75131 I don't know if a draft would go over that well compared to how it went over during the vietnam conflict. WW2 was different because people wanted to kill japs for bombing pearl harbor not go to afganistan and oust the taliban because they had shut down opium production and wouldn't let an oil pipeline be built. Or go into Iraq because saddam had dropped the dollar and was trading oil for other currencies.

Chris

Posted: Jul 09 2012, 11:25 PM

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Hey Sarge:

"What kind of sensationalist journalism is this? Equating a draft to slavery is absolute nonsense Stan McChrystal is an absolute professional who dedicated his entire adult life to the defense of an ungrateful nation."

Forced military servitude to the state is slavery, you're being forced to do something against your will, what is that if not slavery? "Uh, you're being called to defend freedom." No, you're being forced through the barrel of a gun through threats of jail to take up arms and kill for the government. Saying a draft is anything but slavery is absolute nonsense.

"It's so easy to hide behind a keyboard and make ridiculous statements like these to tarnish his good name, but do you honestly presume to know more about national defense than a man with decades of experience in protecting our freedoms and way of life? It was people who acted so presumtuously on the first place that landed him where he ended up. The reality is he has forgotten more about how to ensure the safety of a nation that you or I will ever know."

To quote a former marine, "If the troops were 'defending our freedoms,' they'd be taking up arms *against* the government." When that happens, I'll consider thanking them.

"This nation owes General McChrystal a debt of gratitude for his selfless service and sacrifice, not misquoting and defamatory comments. I'd be willing to bet the author of this article has never served."

He took a government job to benefit himself because he saw it as his best choice in life. I'd rather thank a pizza delivery man who is actually providing me with a service rather than some costumed politician who goes around ordering people killed.

"In order for free men to remain free, hard men must be willing to do violence on their behalf. It's a cold, bitter reality that is so repulsive to our fragile little politically-correct minds, but nonetheless it is an unfortunate aspect of human nature. "

First off, we're not free, if you're so willing to do violence on others' behalf, why don't you stand up for the kids who's lemonade stands are shut down by "their" government? I'm sure you don't pay taxes too, right? After all, you're so willing to use violence in defense of your freedoms, you don't cower before the state when it demands you pay it tributes, correct?

Don't make me laugh about your claims to "freedom." America is just another slave state like every other, 40%+ of private producers' wealth is confiscated by the state year after year, citizens are subject to some 800,000 regulations/laws micromanaging every aspect of their lives, their currency is worthless paper which is endlessly printed and inflated by the government, the government is involved in countless adventurist wars and is actively seeking to get involved in even more, and now they're talking of bringing back forced military servitude because their volunteer military has been all used up. That's not freedom -- that's slavery. The county HAD freedom for a small period of time before the government completely swallowed it, now pretty much every other nation enjoys the same level of "freedom" we do, many have more.
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 10 2012, 6:15 PM

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108129 The Sarge needs to tell that to all the innocent people being killed in these undeclared illegal wars.
Our soldiers on average of one a day are committing suicide. Why Sarge? If it so wonderful, why are they choosing to end their lives rather than kill people who are "terrorists"? I know why, and you do too.
The truth is we are already slaves, but more and more of us are waking up, and refusing to do the bidding of the elites any longer. You go lick McChrystals boots somewhere where they have not been pushed down somebody's throat, Americans are getting sick of the wars!!!
Sgt. John Doe

Posted: Jul 10 2012, 8:48 PM

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6919 The draft was abandoned because American draftees rebelled, repeatedly, at fighting in Vietnam in a war purposely designed not to be won. The military couldn't bomb Hanoi, they couldn't mine Haiphong Harbor, they couldn't stop Russian ships from resupplying the NVA, and our soldiers were being fed into a no-win war for nothing.

Some soldiers rolled hand grenades into the officer's quarters, while other soldiers sued their commanders to avoid another tour of duty.. Some officers in the field had to designate NCO's as their bodyguards against attack from draftee soldiers. Unpopular officers would often be shot in the field by "friendly fire".

The general and his boot-kissing groupies seem to forget what happened in the last draft of US citizens. No real American feels obligated to serve an administration run by criminals. DHS Janet Napolitano and Atty. Gen. Eric Holder should have been arrested with the first molestation of a child at the airport, and the first gun shipped into Mexico by the US government..
Anonymous

Posted: Jul 10 2012, 9:59 PM

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10893 This actually seems like a very bad idea for the US gov.

The last thing they need is more people with knowledge of armed combat skills when the revolution comes.........
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