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Article posted Jan 01 2007, 5:54 AM Category: Tyranny/Police State Source: The Newspaper Print

Missouri: Police Roadblock Harassment Caught on Tape

St. Louis County, Missouri threaten to arrest a teenager for refusing to discuss his personal travel plans.

A teenager harassed by police in St. Louis, Missouri caught the incident on tape. Brett Darrow, 19, had his video camera rolling last month as he drove his 1997 Maxima, minding his own business. He approached a drunk driving roadblock where he was stopped, detained and threatened with arrest when he declined to enter a conversation with a police officer about his personal travel habits. Now Darrow is considering filing suit against St. Louis County Police.

"I'm scared to drive for fear of being stopped at another checkpoint and arrested while doing nothing illegal," Darrow told TheNewspaper. "We're now guilty until we prove ourselves innocent to these checkpoint officers."

On that late November night, videotape confirms that Darrow had been ordered out of his vehicle after telling a policeman, "I don't wish to discuss my personal life with you, officer." Another officer attempted to move Darrow's car until he realized, "I can't drive stick!" The officer took the opportunity to undertake a thorough search of the interior without probable cause. He found nothing.

When Darrow asked why he was being detained, an officer explained, "If you don't stop running your mouth, we're going to find a reason to lock you up tonight."

The threats ended when Darrow informed officers that they were being recorded. After speaking to a supervisor Darrow was finally released.

"These roadblocks have gotten out of hand," Darrow told TheNewspaper. "If we don't do something about them now, it'll be too late."

A full video of the incident is available here. A transcript is provided below as the audio is at times very faint.

Article Excerpt:
Transcript of audio made by Brett Darrow:

00:40
Officer #1: How are you tonight sir?
Brett: Hi.
Officer #1: Can you put your window down for me.
(I roll the window ALL the way down.)
Officer #1: Do you have a driver's license and proof of insurance?
(I begin to get my information out of my wallet)
Officer #1: Where you headed tonight?
Brett: I don't wish to discuss my personal life with you officer.
Officer #1: Alright, come on up here.
(I start to move my car)
Officer #1: As a matter of fact, just stop your car right here and step out.
(I stop the car, roll up my windows, pull up the emergency brake, and shut the car off)
Officer #1: Leave your car runnin with the keys in it.
Brett: What's that?
Officer #1: Leave your car runnin with the keys in it.
Brett: I don't want it to roll away officer.
Officer#1: Turn the car on.
Brett: It's a manual officer.
Officer #1: Okay. That's fine, then leave it off. Just leave it off. You're right, that's dangerous.
(I step out, and lock the doors.)
(He then calls another officer over)
Officer #1: Give me your keys.
Brett: Why officer?
Officer #1: I need to move it out of the street.
Brett: Can I move it?
Officer #1: No.
(Officer #1 takes my keys)
Brett: Why are you moving my car?
Officer #1: Because I'm going to talk you--I'm going to interview you because you didn't want to interview. You didn't want to sit down and have a talk with me.
Brett: I do not want to talk about my personal life.
Officer #1: Okay.
(We walk to the side of the road)


1:48
(Officer #2 then unlocks my car and looks around inside of it. You can see his flash light moving around in the car.)
Officer #2: Hey uh, I can't drive a stick. (laughs about it) I can't drive a stick.
(Officer #3 enters my car and attempts to move it. He stalls it once. He then lets it roll back down the hill before giving it a lot of gas and ridding the clutch while trying to move it forward. He then exits the car 62 seconds after entering.)
(While the officers are trying to move my vehicle, this audio not heard)
Officer #1: Where are you headed tonight?
Brett: I don't want to talk about my personal life.
Officer #1: Have you had anything to drink tonight?
Brett: No.
Officer #1: Alright, I'll be right back
(Officer #1 then calls 2 other officers (Officers #4 & #5) to stand by me as he goes to a patrol car to check my license)


Brett: Why am I being detained officer? (directed toward Officer #4)
Officer #4: You better stop runnin your mouth or the other officer will find a reason to lock you up tonight.
(Audio can now be heard again)
3:22
Brett: You're saying you're going to make up a reason to arrest me?
Officer #4: No I didn't. I said we would find a reason.
Brett: Okay. I just want to let you know all of this is being recorded.
Officer #4: That's good, we're recording it too. Do what he tells you to do--
Brett: I don't have a right to talk right here in a normal voice?
Officer #4: Yes you do.
Brett: You're saying I'm going to be arrested.
Officer #4: I'm just saying...
Brett: You just said you‘re going to find a reason to lock me up.
Officer #4: I said do what he telld you to do.
Brett: You said if I keep runnin my mouth, I will be locked up.
Officer #4: I said he'll find a reason.
Why are you going to find a reason to lock me up when I'm only asking why I'm being detained in a normal voice?
Officer #4: Do what he tells you to do.
Brett: Am I being detained?
Officer #4: Yes you are!
Brett: May I leave?
Officer #4: No, you may not.
Brett: Why am I being detained?
Officer #4: Because you don't have a driver's license.
Brett: I do have a driver's license. I gave it to the other officer.
Officer #4: When the other officer comes back--When he comes back--When he comes back you can talk to him about it.
Brett: Why are you saying I don't have my license?
Officer #4: Nineteen years old and you know everything.
Brett: Yes sir.


4:38
Brett: I'm being detained because I didn't tell the officer where I was going?
Officer #4: I wasn't here, you can talk to him when he comes back.


4:55
Brett: What was your name.
(Officer #4 ignored me)
Brett: Officer how do you spell your last name?
Officer #4: It's right there.
(points to chest, but his name is covered by the traffic safety vest. He then moves it so I can see.)
Officer #4: Hallquisd.
Brett: H-A-L-L-Q-U-I-S-D?
Officer #4: Yep.


5:09
(I then turn toward the other officer standing by me. Officer #5)
Brett: And what was your name officer?
Officer #5: Schmit.
(Officer #5 then talks to Officer #4 about stopping someone that had his last name)


8:38
Brett: Are you stopping everybody and getting them out of the car?
Officer #4: You can talk to the other officer (Officer #1) when he comes back.


10:10
(Officer #1 comes back and hands me my license and insurance card)
Officer #1: Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your time.
Brett: Why exactly was I detained and why did you get me out of the car?
Officer #1: You didn't want to answer my questions.(unsure of the rest of his comment)
Brett: Where does me having to go have anything to do with a DWI checkpoint. I don't have the right--
Officer #1: I was trying to have a conversation.
Brett: I didn't want to have a conversation. You stopped me officer in the middle of the road.
Officer #1: I was trying to have a conversation with you (unsure of the rest of his comment)
Brett: Do you stop everybody and get everybody out of the car? Or you did that just to me?
Officer #1: (unsure of audio)
Brett: Is St. Louis County Police going to pay for a new clutch, after he just killed it here and burnt up my clutch.
Officer #1: Would you like to talk to a supervisor?
Brett: Yes I would.
(Officer #1 goes across the street to get the supervisor.


12:43
(Supervisor comes over)
Supervisor: How you doin?
Brett: Hi.
Supervisor: I'm sergeant (unsure of his name)
Brett: I'm Brett Darrow
Supervisor: Brent?
Brett: Brett.
Supervisor: What's the problem tonight?
Brett: I have a problem because I was stopped here and uhh I offered to move my vehicle. The officer said I could not move my vehicle to park it. He told me to leave my keys in the car. I got out. Locked the door. He took my keys. Uhh. And they attempted to move my car here. They stalled it a couple of times. Burnt up the clutch. I mean it's all on tape and video. Now I'm going to have problems with my clutch. Who's going to pay for that?
Supervisor: How do you know they messed up the clutch?
Brett: I saw it right here. I saw smoke coming off as he tired to take off. It's a pretty easy way I guess for you guys to get inside a vehicle on a DWI checkpoint and that's where I have a problem.
Supervisor: Well, DWI checkpoints are authorized.
Brett: I understand they are authorized, but drug checkpoints aren't and you know when I see a K9 unit over here--
Supervisor: That's not the point.
Brett: Well why would there be a K9 unit?
Supervisor: The dog is part of the police department.
Brett: That just happens to be at a checkpoint. I know, I know you get a lot of drug busts off DWI checkpoints.
Supervisor: Actually the dog comes out very rarely. He's not walking by every car.
Brett: Not tonight he's not?
Supervisor: I'm at most of these checkpoints--
Brett: Okay.
Supervisor: And you can't walk the dog by every car. He just physically can't do it.
Brett: Okay
Supervisor: As far as your clutch--I have no idea what kind of damage was caused.
Brett: It's obvious it caused some damage. I mean you could see smoke and he killed my car and I don't know what other problems I'm going to have from that and if I do have problems, I'm going to be coming to the St. Louis County Police and I just want to let you know that tomorrow--this next week--
Supervisor: Do the officers have your name?
Brett: Uhh, I don't know.
Supervisor: Did they give you your ID back?
Brett: They gave me my ID.
Supervisor: Let me copy done your information. The issue obviously is, how do I know you didn't have clutch problems before because you're not driving a newer car?
Brett: That's correct.
Supervisor: What year is it?
Brett: It's a 1997.
Supervisor: So it's an older car?
Brett: Yes.
Supervisor: And you didn't have issues with the clutch before?
Brett: No, probably because I've had it replaced recently.
Supervisor: Well if that is an issue that actually does happen, you'll have to file a complaint with our insurance department.
Brett: Okay
Supervisor: The officers do have a right to..(unsure of audio)
Brett: I understand that, but I don't think they have a right to drive my vehicle.
Supervisor: Well we can't leave it in traffic.
Brett: Well I offered to pull it over here and the officer declined.
Supervisor: When were conducting an investigation. We can't say, oh you can drive your car and then that person takes off and runs over someone, we'd have a problem.
Brett: We'll I'd expect them to pull me off the road originally and not stop me in the middle of traffic.
Supervisor: Here ya go.
(Hands me my license)
Brett: Okay.
Supervisor: Anything else I can do for you?
Brett: No, I mean I just don't understand why I had to get out of the car because I didn't want to tell the officer where I was going. I think that is my own personal business and that has nothing to do with this.
Supervisor: And the officer said because your not telling him where--
Brett: Exactly, that is exactly why he asked me to step out of the car. Because he asked me where I was going and I told him officer I don't wish to speak with you about where I'm going tonight and he said get out of the car.
Supervisor: Okay, I'm sure there was something else besides that.
Brett: That's exactly it and you can bring him over here right now and actually I would like if you would so we can talk about this.
Supervisor: We're not going to do this on the side of the road.
Brett: Okay, and what was your name?
Supervisor: (Unsure of audio)
Brett: And how do you spell it?
Supervisor: (Unsure of audio)
Brett: May I leave?
Supervisor: Certainly, the officer said you could leave before.

(I get in the car, turn the video toward the officers and then behind me at the supervisor. I then drive off.)





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lugnut

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 1:37 PM

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24238 If You give up what some consider small freedoms. They'll eventually take them all.

I consider it an insult, to the people who have died fighting for every freedom we have. than to have a coward, a yes man or woman, nieve people, to so easily give those freedoms up.



Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 1:46 PM

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4242 The more I think about it the more I think this young man did exactly the right thing. The 4th amendment (that's in the Bill of Rights for you Gestapo supporters) guarantees our RIGHTS against illegal searches and seizures, and REQUIRES a Warrant based upon PROBABLE CAUSE to suspect a crime sworn before a magistrate before a search may take place.

It is clear that the Police had, in this case, NO PROBABLE CAUSE and were just behaving as officious thugs who resented having a citizen stand up and question the limits of their authority.

Police Power is a LIMITED authority and well it should be as otherwise it can only be named TYRANNY. The Police have a limited mandate to perform certain duties which are delegated to them in the course of their job. It is not a mandate of unlimited power, nor is it a mandate to order citizens around without just and <u>probable</u> cause.

The Police here were clearly exceeding their legal authority and behaving like schoolyard bullies who didn't like the little kid who questioned them. Tough - deal with it!
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 1:48 PM

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4255 glad to see a young person with a questioning mind. unfortunately one in a million.
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 2:03 PM

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71218 Time to start shooting pigs.
MojoXN

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 2:28 PM

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68233 Sue the piss out of these facist bastards, Brett. That's the only way they'll learn that they too are bound by the laws that they allegedly enforce.
Ethan Rom

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 2:30 PM

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7552 I love the completely subservient attitudes of the 'Just do what you are told t o do' posters on this site. I'd bet they have a 'bush-cheney' sticker along wi th 'freedom isn't free' ribbon on the back of their car. To you crew I say eat shit. You will never know or accept true freedom as you cannot accept the res ponsibility of such an awesome power. So, shut up you pussy.. I didn't tell yo u to talk... Now lick my shoe you maggot!

Oh yea, one more thing. Great job to the individual who brought us this video. You fascist nancies could learn a thing or two from him.

Bobby

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 3:23 PM

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71107 For all of you foos who are so ready to bow to authority, you'll notice that in cities across the U.S. when these same cops stop illegal aliens with no license or insurance or registration, they claim they can't do anything to them. If course not, they always have phony I.D.s . It's only law abiding Americans that get ticketed and continually harassed. Isn't it?
Dormammu

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 3:55 PM

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69141 I don't drink or do drugs so I have nothing to fear from Check points. Are they UnConstiutional? Yes

Do I want to see drunks and incapacitated people off the roads? Yes

Was this guy doing anything wrong? No

Here's a lttle thing I do with cops at a DWI

Officer asks me where i am going or where I have been. I start to say what movie I watched, what food I ate, what music I listened to, and start saying how cool Forbidden Planat or Meat Beat Manifesto is, or how I enjoy Breaded Broccoli. The officer either starts talking about what he likes, or quickly asks me to leave. I always liked conversing with people, even cops.
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 4:06 PM

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15598 I don't know which I find more distressing: this young man being illegally detained for doing nothing wrong, or the comments from the goose-steppers who can't recognize this simple fact.
A. Magnus

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 4:14 PM

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161254 The people who think wearing a badge automatically makes you better than the average taxpayer are communist to the core. Only big government bootlicking types think having a Cheka-style police state is cool.
PissedPaleocon

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 5:27 PM

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76173 Froggy57 is a typical tough-talking ignorant fool; sounds like knee-jerk, police-worshipping "conservative." Giving police free reign and the benefit of the doubt is not part of a vigorous, constitutionally limited republic.
VOA

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 6:01 PM

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6857 Typical of where this neo-con nazi police state is and where its heading to...

He should sue them and then sue some more!

And then "We the people" should take whatever action is deemed right against all insane neo-con nazi's that this corrupt bu$h/cheney regime puts in front of us...

Its not going to be pretty...
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 7:20 PM

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24211 So glad to see a youngin who hasnt been totally brainwashed by the govt schools and knows how to think for himself. I had a cop tell me one time that he didnt work for me because I didnt pay enough taxes to cover his salary!!! I grew up believing in cops but not any more. Funny thing is, when you stand up to them in an intelligent manner they usually back down because they realize you do know what you are talking about. The Mises institute opened my eyes to the fact that the govt pays the salaries of the police and the judges so those two groups work together to protect the govt. The deck is stacked against the common man unless he educates himself to his rights and the law.
globalstomp

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 7:53 PM

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I love how all these twits that defend the cops are writing in anonymously. What's the matter you don't have the balls to stand up for your communistic attitude? Of course not because people like you are what's wrong with this country. Just throw out your outrageous remarks and run for cover you fucking cowards. I hope you have a check point near you that will indoctrinate you into how to be a good slave and totally harass you and see how you like it. This Vietnam vet is tired of scum like you and i wish you all the happiness in your concentration camp cell they have set-up just for you. You are all fuckin Nazi's assholes and I would love to see you in a dark alley and kick your FUCKING ass to next sunday you cowardly pricks.
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 8:15 PM

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63105 Way to go Brett!!! If only this country had more courageous people question authority these bastards would not think that because they have a gun and badge that they are above the law.

Check points are unconstitutional---plain and simple.


Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Mad as hell

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 8:37 PM

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67127 People. until you been in this situation, you don't know how you'll react.<BR><BR>

i've had at least 3 run ins with this in the past (2 DWI check point converstions just like this and a safety belt check point) as soon as you express to the 'officers' ANY sense of your personal rights YOU WILL be attacked. <BR><BR>

i ask you.<BR><BR>

is this freedom?<BR><BR>

i recommend having a video in your car... 'just in case' <BR>
the TEENAGER who did this had guts and should be applauded.<BR>
(who said the youth in the country don't get it?)<BR><BR>

even if you weren't doing anything wrong. even if you have all your 'papers'. even if you're polite.
you may be in a bad mood. tired. may be running late. have a cold. may look at the officer a little odd. may seem like you know too much. who knows... you may end up being the
victim of this new fascism we have in the country and be fined, lose your license or thrown in jail.<BR><BR>

all because you were driving down a street minding your own business.<BR><BR>

how will you react then?<BR><BR>

just a friendly reminder that a new year brings new constraints and we need to protect
our rights "one person at a time"<BR><BR>

while i'm at it...i'd like to out an officer near where i lived. his name is officer Hittle of the Tredyffrin Township(sp) police department in Pennsylvania. This officer pulled me over and thoroughly embarrassed me on the side of the road all because i had an anti-gov't sticker on my bumper. of course, he would never admit to it but that's the truth. (he apparently is a former marine and the whole unit is full of former military that don't realize that the ones wanting this illegal war and phony war on terrorisim to end are the true patriots!) <BR><BR>

while he was given me a test...another officer snooped my vehicle. i had nothing to drink and was simply heading to the post office. <BR><BR>

maybe we could list all the officers here that stopped you. that embarrassed you. that personally raped you of you 1st and 4th amendments. and spit on all the graves of our fine military.<BR><BR>

Those poor people who 'died for freedoms'? yea, all you little sheep just give away your freedoms..the ones on this page will fight for them in spite of you! GREAT JOB BRENT!
DUERYTE

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 9:52 PM

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4235 WELL, U CAN PLAINLY SEE THAT THE OFFICER GOT HIS EGO AND FEELINGS HURT AS TAUGHT IN LAW ENFORCMENT SCHOOL, THAT U DONT ALLOW PEOPLE TO RUN OVER U WITH YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS IN THIS SO-CALLED FREE NATION \\\\\\\"HA,HA\\\\\\\" . THESE GUYS ARE THUGS PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THERE BEST INTEREST WAS NOT THERE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE NOR TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE, BUT ONLY TO DO WHAT THEY ARE TAUGHT. WHY AS U CAN SEE, THAY DONT HAVE MINDS OF THERE OWN, JUST OUT RIGHT THUGGERY AND FORCE FOR U TO COMPLY WITH. AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN 2 ME , EXCEPT , THE OFFICER ASKED ME WHERE I HAD BEEN, I RESPONDED WITH... \\\\\\\" WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?\\\\\\\". HE THEN SAID THAT HE WAS CONCERNED FOR MY SAFETY ???. I HAPPEN 2 KNOW THE SHERIFF PERSONALLY SO IF ANYTHING WERE 2 HAPPEN, IT WOULD BE CORRECTED. BUT, PHRASES LIKE THESE ARE MEANT TO DISARM PUBLIC BY APPEARING TO EMOTIONALLY BASEDFOR OUR GOOD WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE USED TO BE OBTRUSIVE AND INVASIVE INTO OUR PRIVACY. LOOK UP ALEX JONES, WHATCH VIDS LIKE \\\\\\\"POLICE STAT 1 , 2, 3.. ITS HERE!!!
Keith Coogan

Posted: Jan 02 2007, 11:01 PM

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76171 Even when placed under arrest, you have the right to remain silent.

So, if you are NOT under arrest, don't you enjoy the same right?
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 03 2007, 12:26 AM

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67185 Police state in process, this is a prohibition exercise by MADD , Sounds like next they will be setting up checkpoints to find out where your going. That is what the cop asked him to begin with.
Anonymous

Posted: Jan 03 2007, 8:06 AM

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6531 this isnt motherfucking nazi germany! you have a fucking right not to say anything!!! i would have done the same. police are employed by my tax dollars
they work for me!!! to serve me and to protect me !!! not fucking harrass me!!
and in my opinion this young mans rights were violated by the very people
who he entrusted to protect and serve him the officers involved should be fired!!!!!
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